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Offline Stoney

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PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« on: February 28, 2009, 12:04:01 PM »
Please post any discussion or questions regarding the setup in this thread.

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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 12:56:27 PM »
You have the word "formations" in the A20 quotas.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 02:32:06 PM »
You have the word "formations" in the A20 quotas.

On that note, I really dislike formations because of their warps when the lead aircraft isn't going straight and level.  Any chance we can not have formations in this FSO? ;) :pray

Is this going to be a 50/50 side split?  You're probably already fudging the historical numbers, but the number of Spitfire VIIIs (48max) versus 190A-5s (28max) seems imbalanced for gameplay.  My $.02.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 02:51:54 PM »
You have the word "formations" in the A20 quotas.

Good catch Moot, thanks.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 02:52:32 PM »
On that note, I really dislike formations because of their warps when the lead aircraft isn't going straight and level.  Any chance we can not have formations in this FSO? ;) :pray

Is this going to be a 50/50 side split?  You're probably already fudging the historical numbers, but the number of Spitfire VIIIs (48max) versus 190A-5s (28max) seems imbalanced for gameplay.  My $.02.

Gava, the 190s were very limited and were 190Gs.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 02:55:58 PM »
On that note, I really dislike formations because of their warps when the lead aircraft isn't going straight and level.  Any chance we can not have formations in this FSO? ;) :pray

Is this going to be a 50/50 side split?  You're probably already fudging the historical numbers, but the number of Spitfire VIIIs (48max) versus 190A-5s (28max) seems imbalanced for gameplay.  My $.02.

Current numbers are planned at a 48% Axis to 52% Allied.  Allied will have 8 offensive/2 defensive objectives per frame with Axis having 2 offensive/8 defensive objectives per frame.  I've done a pretty thorough job of researching as many available Axis and Allied AOB's as I could get my hands on, and this aircraft mix is roughly proportional to what was in theater at the time.  I believe its pretty well balanced, but obviously, if frame 1 illustrates any glaring problems, I'll adjust.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 02:58:39 PM »
Oh, well then wouldn't the 190F-8 be a better choice than the A5?
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 03:02:19 PM »
Yeah... wasn't the G a ground attack version? Perhaps the A-8 is more similar though, it really comes down to the armor plating.

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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 03:06:59 PM »
Wow, the two Axis offensive objectives should be interesting. That could make for a titanic air battle.

One of these days I'd love to see a frame where one side is pure attack and has ONE offensive objective. One massive air battle. It'd kill the frame rate, but man wouldn't that be crazy. :D
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 03:09:38 PM »
Oh, well then wouldn't the 190F-8 be a better choice than the A5?

Dunno..

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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 03:10:13 PM »
Well Sax, I empathize with that--I think a lot of us do.  However, current game mechanics prevent us from doing that.  With 10 objectives per frame, we'll average 50+ pilots per battle, which should be sufficient for decent action without framerate-jamming the participants systems.
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 03:13:18 PM »
Looks like a great writeup, 412th is requesting Allies after two tours flying Japanese Aircraft.

EDIT: The Squad Ops Welcome page still lists August Storm as the current FSO.  ;)
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 03:15:23 PM »
Looks like a great writeup, 412th is requesting Allies after two tours flying Japanese Aircraft.

I'll see what I can do...    :rofl

Well, I changed the text hyperlink and forgot to change the graphic hyperlink...fixed now
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 03:16:02 PM »
Really looking forward to this one!

Looks good Stoney.  :aok
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Re: PRELUDE TO STALEMATE: OPERATION AVALANCHE DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 03:27:23 PM »
Stoney, any thoughts on the 190F-8 as a better substitute for the 190G?
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