Author Topic: What the shreck are these!?!? (Read 1806 times)

Jochen · « **on:** July 20, 2001, 03:37:00 PM »

Took these photos today, more to come soon:

Tony Williams can't attend...

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funkedup · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2001, 03:46:00 PM »

Looks like a poorly designed aerodynamic shape of some sort. Would probably tumble and have low velocity and a lot of drop.

Fatty · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2001, 03:47:00 PM »

Heh Funked, the latter two do look somewhat familiar after seeing Pyro's lineup photo.

Westy MOL · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2001, 03:48:00 PM »

Great

BIG

Nipples!!

Jochen · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2001, 03:59:00 PM »

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Looks like a poorly designed aerodynamic shape of some sort. Would probably tumble and have low velocity and a lot of drop.

Well, atleast they are bit more advanced technology than solid steel slugs one nation was able to produce.

Nashwan · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2001, 04:17:00 PM »

Which nation was that?

Jigster · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2001, 04:36:00 PM »

Have you ever seen the normal Hispano HE shell? The dang thing looks like an egg! It has two sealeants, the compression ring, and where the shell flares out towards the tip, but it makes for a very odd shape, even with a fuse larger than the MG 121/20.

Btw the British did make some, but they never did like HE rounds...something jaded them early, and it tended to come back and haunt them

Let alone anything like the M-G rounds.

Tac · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2001, 04:44:00 PM »

Fatty's daily Vitamin Dweeb supositories?

Fatty · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2001, 04:45:00 PM »

Complete with fuse to smoke out any leftover hamsters.

Nashwan · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2001, 04:52:00 PM »

If the British didn't like HE rounds, why did the RAF standardise on a 50/50 mix of HE/I and SAP/I?
The HE/I/T rounds designed for the Hispano by the original French manufacturers were poor, detonating either at the surface of the target or, worse still, just after leaving the gun.
The replacement rounds designed by the British were found satisfactory by the RAF, in tests they always penetrated the target before exploding, unlike German mine shells.

Wmaker · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2001, 05:47:00 AM »

It's a Mauser MG 151/20 Minegeschoss round without the gardridge.

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Jochen · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2001, 06:21:00 AM »

Correctmundo Widowmaker. Do you happen to have any (cutout)drawings about the fuze or the round in general?

Nashwan · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2001, 07:03:00 AM »

Tony Williams (I am suprised he hasn't posted in this thread) has a photo of various sectioned rounds at his website. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~autogun/
for the main page
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~autogun/webimgs/WW2aircart.JPG
for the photo of the rounds themselves

brady · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2001, 07:05:00 AM »

look for TM-1985-( 1 or 2 I think), I have Japanese series of these and this book will have the cutaway you want, i have seen theam in it just dont own the German Volume

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Wmaker · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2001, 03:15:00 PM »

Here ya go jochen

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BTW, where on earth did you get 'em?!? Me want!!

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