I'm a wee bit ticked.........

[SPKmes]

Of late I have found this too...much like in the post about scotch that is here. I understand about the ho thing I find it to be a little on the nose (haha) that it resorts to this when in these postions... especially when there is more than three. It makes me revert to the full frontal quarter shot myself which is bad because I have an 80% chance of death going for a ho on a C47... I just suck at it.
 In say all this though, I do come across many good 1v1, 2v1 fights often in the MA but I do fly a different time zone.

I must say though has definitely helped my SA and defensive fight. Still get target fixation from time to time still.

[bongaroo]

I up out of A127 in a P40E 50% and a DT. Autoclimb out and when I get to about 10K I see 2 enemy dots at about 15K. I level for speed and pretty soon I get their icons. Spit14 and a niki. So here they come. I slightly drop my nose to gain more speed and the niki is first one in cannons blazing. Spit split s and niki goes up and over as I do. Niki hoes again and again I avoid it and drop down on the spit14. Niki stays high thinking spit14 will make quick work of me. Spit goes up and over, I go up and over turning inside this guy everytime until I get on his 6 in a tight turn. I have my sight dead on him but he just a half a second more to get my lead and make the kill when all of the sudden here comes the niki to drop down from 10K and shoot me in the face
I guess I can understand that the ole boy didn't want to lose his perk plane but damn man, these two weren't even squadies. The way I see it is the fight wouldn't have been fair if it was a 1vs1, much less a spit14 AND a Niki (that hoed on every merge).

Don't get me wrong, I expected to get shot down flying the P40 but it's the way they fought me that sucks.Where are peoples sense of fair play in this game? I see this kind of thing every day. 10 guys will drop from outerspace to kill a B5N or a Stuka. Everywhere I went in that P40 tonight I was swarmed by spit16s, LA7s,Nikis...... Not once did anyone backoff and give the poor little plane a fair chance at a kill.

I just had to get that off my chest. Now you may flame me for whining 

Coming from you and having seen your squad in action I only have to say:  Pot, meet this kettle.   

[Getback]

I expect a fair fight because that is how I was raised. If my buddy got into a fight on the playground, I didn't go over and kick the other guy in his head because my dad would kick my butt when I got home.
I've been playing the game long enough to know that a Spit14 and niki both out perform a P40, especallily if they have a 5K alt avantage.

Way different scenario. I doubt in WWII they would call off their wingie to make it "Fair". But frankly I would cover my buds butt and maybe even avoid the playground tussle with a show of force unless told otherwise.

Now you jumped into the p40 knowing what the plane's weakness and you entered the fight knowing there were 2 of them. You were testing you mettle which I admire but whining about, then getting killed by one of the cons?! Oh come on. If you had killed both you would have been bragging. You took your chances and it didn't work out your way. The only reason you are posting.

Besides, weren't you one of the folks defending furballs? Now you are going to get teamed in those.

[uptown]

Coming from you and having seen your squad in action I only have to say:  Pot, meet this kettle.   

We like to gang you because everytime one of us kills you, you jump right on 200. We do that to get a rise out of you and it works every single time. I like fighting you.You're a good stick, but when you start bad mouthing us we hunt you down.

One of our main tactics is the hook and drag but you can never seem to figure that out. Nothing personal 420, but you just don't pay attention most of the time.

[uptown]

Way different scenario. I doubt in WWII they would call off their wingie to make it "Fair". But frankly I would cover my buds butt and maybe even avoid the playground tussle with a show of force unless told otherwise.

Now you jumped into the p40 knowing what the plane's weakness and you entered the fight knowing there were 2 of them. You were testing you mettle which I admire but whining about, then getting killed by one of the cons?! Oh come on. If you had killed both you would have been bragging. You took your chances and it didn't work out your way. The only reason you are posting.

Besides, weren't you one of the folks defending furballs? Now you are going to get teamed in those.

I can't argue with that. Good post sir 

[grizz441]

I up out of A127 in a P40E 50% and a DT. Autoclimb out and when I get to about 10K I see 2 enemy dots at about 15K. I level for speed and pretty soon I get their icons. Spit14 and a niki. So here they come. I slightly drop my nose to gain more speed and the niki is first one in cannons blazing. Spit split s and niki goes up and over as I do. Niki hoes again and again I avoid it and drop down on the spit14. Niki stays high thinking spit14 will make quick work of me. Spit goes up and over, I go up and over turning inside this guy everytime until I get on his 6 in a tight turn. I have my sight dead on him but he just a half a second more to get my lead and make the kill when all of the sudden here comes the niki to drop down from 10K and shoot me in the face
I guess I can understand that the ole boy didn't want to lose his perk plane but damn man, these two weren't even squadies. The way I see it is the fight wouldn't have been fair if it was a 1vs1, much less a spit14 AND a Niki (that hoed on every merge).

Don't get me wrong, I expected to get shot down flying the P40 but it's the way they fought me that sucks.Where are peoples sense of fair play in this game? I see this kind of thing every day. 10 guys will drop from outerspace to kill a B5N or a Stuka. Everywhere I went in that P40 tonight I was swarmed by spit16s, LA7s,Nikis...... Not once did anyone backoff and give the poor little plane a fair chance at a kill.

I just had to get that off my chest. Now you may flame me for whining 

You give these pilots too much credit.  Chances are they aren't very good, get killed a lot, and will take the opportunity to kill the red guy any chance they get.  Most of the MA pilots are like this.  The possibilities of getting ganged, HO'd, and treated like an actual enemy should be assumed in every engagement in the MA because that's how it transcends the vast majority of the time.

[John Curnutte]

 Uptown the thing is you took a P-40 , and every once in a while you will see guys land kills in it . Besides its fun to fly older early stuff . you can suprise the living cr** out of someone in them . You got ganged as do I when I fly them but still I fly them , its about the fun . Just don't let the basteges get to ya .
                  Nutte

[Getback]

I can't argue with that. Good post sir 

 

Edit: You know just getting on the spits tail is pretty darn good.

[Dadsguns]

Thanks Fugitive....   

Stick jerking will make you go blind..... 

[bongaroo]

We like to gang you because we're pretty horrible without alt or numbers, hopefully both.

QFT!   

I've got a nice film of p51's getting ownt; Vampire and immediately after Rabbit are the last two, both started with all the advantages.  And here I thought in Vampire's and your squad's case that rank would mean something!

[/sarcasm]

[zoozoo]

stop whining. Not even going to finish reading this.

[Saxman]

A the p40 is not a piece of crap! Give her a chance and don't give up on her.

She's not too bad of a plane. Took her up in the DA because of the upcoming FSO (wanted a check flight as I'm planning to request Allies) and bagged three before I got cherry-picked by a 4-Hog.

Rate of climb actually isn't that abysmal, about in the same category as the F4U-1. She dives well and can pick up a pretty good head of steam going downhill, and is fairly maneuverable. Canopy is heavily framed, but otherwise has a great view over the nose so deflection shooting is fairly easy. I'd say her speed, limited ammo and marginal high-altitude performance are her biggest flaws.

[Corrs]

Uptown,   on flying the P-40...I love that plane. I'll take her right into the middle of a furball and not think twice. You can always count on getting gang banged by every red guy in the mix. It doesn't matter how many friendly spits, LA's, Niki's, ect are there, the red guys will dis-engage them to go after your P-40. They gotta have that P-40 just like a toilet after a Taco-Bell or Carrabba's dinner . That's why I love it, for the attention and as Curnutte said you can suprise the living cr** out of someone with it. Reminds me of a flock of seagulls on the beach going after one fry.. Mine Mine Mine

[Masherbrum]

You give these pilots too much credit.  Chances are they aren't very good, get killed a lot, and will take the opportunity to kill the red guy any chance they get.  Most of the MA pilots are like this.  The possibilities of getting ganged, HO'd, and treated like an actual enemy should be assumed in every engagement in the MA because that's how it transcends the vast majority of the time.

Interesting.   

[grizz441]

Interesting.   

Let me explain to you again what happened last night since you were preoccupied with your endless loops to see.  You are chasing Horrido1 in a 190D9 in your Spit1...I engage.  Nothing wrong so far?  Or should I have just let you two be, even though it clearly wasn't a fight and he was extending away handily?  Anyways, I engage in a 152, we start fighting.  Horrido comes back in after we are engaged.  The endless loops ensue and you begin to get the advantage on me.  I get guns on you once on a 1/4-1/3ish Shot as you fly 200 yds underneath me, barely clip your wing.  Shamus and another ally decide that the 2v1 on a spit1 isn't enough and dive into the fight also.  Eventually you succumb to the gangbang and start whining at me on 200 that I'm a HOing gangbanger. 

So lets recap: I was the first enemy in on you, I took a 1/4-1/3ish shot on a spit1 (probably the best shot i was going to get in an endless looping battle in a 152) and then more allies jumped in and killed you.  Maybe you should have griped at the 4th and 5th guys in and not the player that initially engaged you. 

And your head on definition might be a little stingy.