I'm a wee bit ticked.........

[uptown]

I up out of A127 in a P40E 50% and a DT. Autoclimb out and when I get to about 10K I see 2 enemy dots at about 15K. I level for speed and pretty soon I get their icons. Spit14 and a niki. So here they come. I slightly drop my nose to gain more speed and the niki is first one in cannons blazing. Spit split s and niki goes up and over as I do. Niki hoes again and again I avoid it and drop down on the spit14. Niki stays high thinking spit14 will make quick work of me. Spit goes up and over, I go up and over turning inside this guy everytime until I get on his 6 in a tight turn. I have my sight dead on him but he just a half a second more to get my lead and make the kill when all of the sudden here comes the niki to drop down from 10K and shoot me in the face
I guess I can understand that the ole boy didn't want to lose his perk plane but damn man, these two weren't even squadies. The way I see it is the fight wouldn't have been fair if it was a 1vs1, much less a spit14 AND a Niki (that hoed on every merge).

Don't get me wrong, I expected to get shot down flying the P40 but it's the way they fought me that sucks.Where are peoples sense of fair play in this game? I see this kind of thing every day. 10 guys will drop from outerspace to kill a B5N or a Stuka. Everywhere I went in that P40 tonight I was swarmed by spit16s, LA7s,Nikis...... Not once did anyone backoff and give the poor little plane a fair chance at a kill.

I just had to get that off my chest. Now you may flame me for whining 

[Alpha202]

well... Why Do they Go after the C47?... Most likely because they either have troops to take the town or they are slower Have no defense armament and usually The first to get announced on Vox; Kill the C47!!! and everyone Goes to hunt it down.
I can expect the same for the Kate as well seeing as it only has that little 7.7 For rearward Defense and No FWD firing Weapons So its probably Dubbed ***Easy Kill*** or ***This guy is a noob Because he upped a lesser aircraft that can't shoot at you on His 6'o'clock*** (Even a D3A1 can be scary at times)

I myself always assume the P40 Pilot is either Good in the aircraft or Likes the P40, Or is new and knows it has fame in its name, But I have bad experiences with a P40 Pilot whooping me before So I'm always a little cautious around the Earlier aircraft
I'd Take anything on in my zero Though, Not that I'll win however...

and To fair play... I don't like to Ho, But I have done it before, I have to say I have ganged before, But feel like Crap afterwords (Unless I'm having a bad day And want to watch something go *Boom!* by me Anyway I can )
I try not to say anything if I do get hoed or ganged but on the unusual day...

I see To many N1k2-Js  But I consider myself lucky to be graced with SpitMKXIVs cause I rarely see them...

And oh well We lost a Plane that you can Up again any time you want, I really Can't say much else...

[ColKLink]

FLAME

[Saxman]

Last night we were attacking a port and a couple guys kept upping Zekes. I was in my Hog (1D, I'd come heavy but had to dump ords when I encountered a co-alt Spit. Who HOed me, then blew through and went to go HO a squaddie who was following out of icon range when I first contacted the Spit  ) Obviously, I'm not going to sit level and let those Zekes turn me to death.

My squaddie and I were working them over, and every time they'd play the exact same game: Whenever one got around on me I'd be extending in a zoom to give my squaddie a shot. Simple pair tactics against a better-turning plane. The Zeke would evade to go after him and I would roll over and drop on him. I've got a full-plane shot right at his cockpit. Then he'd pull straight vertical to try shooting me in the face. I took damage from collisions TWICE this way (second time fatal. No chance to evade as he'd wait until I'm 600 out, dropping hard, and about to shoot).

It's not the HO that bugged me. If a Zeke wants to try to HO me with those awful guns he's welcome to try it. What ticked me off is that he was pulling up into me in a situation that made avoiding the collision impossible, and THAT'S what caused the fatal damage. He could have just as easily broken under me and still cheat my shot, and probably put himself in a better position on the reversal (it was low-alt, so I couldn't have kept him in my sights without risking smacking into the ground).

[Boozeman]

Hmmm, would things have evolved differently if you had been in the P-51 ?

[Dadsguns]

Uptown,
Its the nature of the beast, usually when you see the name in lights that player x killed umteen kills, its not from fighting a fair fight you can be assured.
yesterday I seen guys shooting down just bombers or picking off guys that were engaged already from 20k+ in their temps, typhs, but when you engage them with something that will give them a fight they dive for their buddies or ack.  Just sad. 
The score baby was born long ago, now its just getting too fat to feed itself. 
Anything for a kill except actually working for it. 

[waystin2]

You did the right thing by going for the fight Uptown.  Take some good out of the whole thing Sir!

[Hawk55]

Anything for a kill except actually working for it. 

You hit the 'nail on the head' Dad.   

[Bronk]

 
Anything for a base take except actually working for it. 

[Geophro]

I doubt that the P-40 itself really had much to do with your encounter other than it does not have a lot of options to deal with any pair of higher E attackers.  The only thing that surprised me is that you had the patience to climb all the way to 10K in a P-40!  I admit that in LW 10K is almost mandatory for the P-40, but still, the waiting,     (rrrrrrr 1.5K) and waiting,  (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 3.5K)    and w a i t i n g , (r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r rr r r r r r r r rr r 7K) . . .

The only thing that I can suggest is to go to MW when you want to fly the P-40.  Sure the fights won't change, other than it will be a Spit 8 and a Hurri 2C diving in on you, but you will only have to climb to 5K to be victimized.  That doubles your chances of finding a worthwhile fight right there!  

Seriously, I used to find lots of people in MW willing to give my P-40 a reasonable fight, and have found a few of them still in MW recently.  The fights are out there, you just have to work harder to find them.  At least you are trying.
 

[skullman]

I feel ya bro.I like the ki61 and it seems they will drop everything to go after me.I guess they feel easy kill.I have had the opposite this week.I have had an unusual number of clean fights that were real enjoyable.

[oakranger]

That sucks Uptown.  A while back i was in a Ju-87 and got kill by a Temps. I guess i was a real threat.

[Anaxogoras]

Totally standard for the main arena.  Get out of that P-51 more often and see what it's like when you can't simply extend away.

[Getback]

"There's no honorable way to get a kill", Anvil (First AW conference champ)

[Banshee7]

I feel ya bro.I like the ki61 and it seems they will drop everything to go after me.I guess they feel easy kill.I have had the opposite this week.I have had an unusual number of clean fights that were real enjoyable.

hehe...i love the Tony...just ask those pesky spit pilots how much of an "easy kill" it can be