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Offline TheZohan

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change the perks on the tiger
« on: March 05, 2009, 05:25:08 AM »
i have seen the tiger not be worth as much as it used to be. i see them going down alot easier with the new tanks being added and dont think they are worth the perks they used to be.  the M-4s and T-34/85 seem to take out the Tiger better then when they wasnt in the game. making the Tiger not as Powerful as the Perks set for it.
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 05:51:24 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 05:58:00 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 07:37:03 AM »
I agree with Zohan... I have not uped a tiger to fight in since the day the sherman was added.......
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 07:45:26 AM »
A snail will be along shortly to throw up a chart that shows the Tiger's K/D ratio has probably changed very little, thereby not deserving a change in perks.

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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 08:23:22 AM »
A snail will be along shortly to throw up a chart that shows the Tiger's K/D ratio has probably changed very little, thereby not deserving a change in perks.

wrongway

I'm not a snail, but there is something skewed with the perked GV's:



On average, users spend more perks to get a kill with the T-34/85 than they do with the M4, even though the M4 is more expensive.  To me that says the M4 is too cheap.  The Tiger is fine.

Note: this may be entirely due to the wonderful default skin of the M4, and the lousy "shoot-me" skins of the T-34/85 and the Tiger.
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 08:25:32 AM »
whats the time line on those K/D ratios.. i am curious is that for the month? year? etc

109 tour the tiger was 3.59
                t34-85 was  1.44
                sherman was 2.55

108 tour the tiger was 3.69
                t34-85 was  1.49
                sherman was 2.48

it may not be a drastic change but i see the tiger k/d getting lower and the sherman raising and the t34/85 staying about avg
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 08:42:21 AM »
My beef is that the M4 Firefly is so cheap for being as effetive as it is.  It can take %90 of the punishment that the Tiger can AND dish out %99 as much damage, or so it seems.

The only real place I see the Tiger performing well is when the ranges are 2800+, and how often is that?  Otherwise, the armor on a Tiger doesnt seem to hold up as it should and the gun is questionable.  *shrugs*
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 08:43:50 AM »
I'm pretty sure the chart is from December's tour.
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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 08:57:21 AM »
the other thing too is since the m4 and T-35/85 have been introduced on average the k/d may be staying the same but the same amount of people upping are about the same, just now its divided over the 3 perked tanks and not just the 2

109 tour  m4 kills 46000
             t34 kills  14000
           tigers kills 10000

108 tour  m4 kills 50000
             t34 kills 16000
           tigers kills 14000

Pre (t-34/85)

99 tour  m4 kills 42000
         tiger kills  17000

98 tour  m4 kills  36000
         tigers kills  14000

pre (m4 and t-34/85)

95 tour        tiger kills  16000

92 tour        tiger kills  17000

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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 09:01:22 AM »
My beef is that the M4 Firefly is so cheap for being as effetive as it is.  It can take %90 of the punishment that the Tiger can AND dish out %99 as much damage, or so it seems.

The only real place I see the Tiger performing well is when the ranges are 2800+, and how often is that?  Otherwise, the armor on a Tiger doesn't seem to hold up as it should and the gun is questionable.  *shrugs*

Sherman cannot take near as much damage as a Tiger.  I think it is more a matter of 1-shot killing than anything else anyway.  The 17 pounder doesn't bounce as much as other tank guns.  Therefore, the Firefly doesn't have the same opportunity to die as a Panzer or T34.  

The same holds true for the T34/76.  Is it up-armored as well as up gunned?  If so, is it that much better on an identical chassis?

If you don't kill them on the first shot, they have a greater chance of killing you on their first shot by not dying to begin with.

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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 09:04:19 AM »
Time to add the Panther!

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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 09:05:39 AM »
the problem is that i see tigers being taking down alot easier then before the T-34/85 and M4 was brought into the game. when it was just the panzer and t-34/76 you would hit with 10 shots and not do anything.. now 1 hit from M4 and T-34/85 and Tiger is dead more often then not. thats my view its not as hard to take down with the new tanks

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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 09:07:58 AM »
the problem is that i see tigers being taking down alot easier then before the T-34/85 and M4 was brought into the game. when it was just the panzer and t-34/76 you would hit with 10 shots and not do anything.. now 1 hit from M4 and T-34/85 and Tiger is dead more often then not. thats my view its not as hard to take down with the new tanks

A more powerful gun hitting them will do that....


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Re: change the perks on the tiger
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2009, 09:09:53 AM »
thats my point.. the tiger isnt as feared as it was and shouldnt be worth the perks it commanded when it didnt have the other 2 tanks present