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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 11:10:39 PM »
A 32 Bit OS will never see the full 4 Gb of memory for the exact reasons I stated so you are correect; no 32 bit OS will "see" it all because it's already deducted video RAM, etc., etc., etc.

Trust me.  I've done a lot of reasearch on this topic so I don't need to go look at your articles.

He isn't worth the time Bald.  Just ignore his illiterate drivel.   
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2009, 12:00:55 AM »
obviously if you read what i posted you would realize that your not completely right, and to stop and actually listen and learn you might be surprised.  soon as serenity posts the model number for the board  well have a fast ending to his problem.

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 02:05:09 AM »
Zohan ask Chalenge how much ram he sees on a 32-bit OS with his dual 1Gb display cards..

It ain't 3,25 Gb just to give a hint..  :salute
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 04:11:39 AM »
its gonna vary .. most systems i see with 4 GB's are on average 3.25, being a computer tech for almost 20 years.. i have seen alot.
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 04:17:32 AM »
mismatching ram can do funky stuff.

believe it or not you may actually have better overall system performance if you yank the 512 sticks and just go with just the 2gb sticks..  sounds odd but it can happen.

if his motherboard will support it , which may be is problem to start with .. which is why i am thinking he only see's 2 GB's cause each bank only see's 512 megs

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2009, 04:25:11 AM »
Hmm... I don't recall ever seeing anything silkscreened on anything when I have opened up the tower... Oh well, Ill take a look next time I'm near the computer.

When you run dxdiag it should list motherboard and model under System Manufacturer and Model, at least mine does.
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2009, 05:20:27 AM »
if his motherboard will support it , which may be is problem to start with .. which is why i am thinking he only see's 2 GB's cause each bank only see's 512 megs

Zohan you may want to do some further research before you make any more fool of yourself.
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 10:09:42 AM »
why dont you do it for me? if i am so wrong post your info

i posted mine info to back up what i was saying
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 10:42:56 AM »
why dont you do it for me? if i am so wrong post your info

i posted mine info to back up what i was saying

You are wrong, you are trying to put 3.25GB in a 2GB system.   

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2009, 10:57:30 AM »
well DUH!!  i never stated that his system could handle 4GB to start with and i am just waiting verification once he comes back with a model number to look up his memory specs for his motherboard to confirm it. 

and i been stating that his system is probably limited to 2GB (4x512) based on the fact thats what his system is seeing with 2 x 1 gb and 2 X 512 megs. again thats a hip shot guess but based on experience would be my first guess.

my 32-bit was in reference to mrripley's post about 32-bit OSes


A 32-bit application on a 32-bit OS can use only 2Gb of ram at once unless it's specifically coded to use a larger memory.

which was irrelavent due to the fact he only has 2GB in the system anyways

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2009, 11:08:33 AM »
hate to bust your bubble

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1035670&highlight=%2F3gb


Quote from: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1035670&highlight=%2F3gb
In the 32-bit versions of Windows I enumerated above, processes are given a default memory limit of at least two gigabytes. This limit means has the logical addresses that any process touches varying between 0x00000000 and 0x7FFFFFFF. These numbers are interesting because they're the full range of non-negative integers that can fit in 32 bits. Considered as a signed integer, the quantity 0x80000000 is -2147483648,
and the quantity 0xFFFFFFFF is considered -1.

I think you just burst your own bubble. Sorry I don't mean to be rude (my real name is Simon btw..) :)

And those were not articles they were UBB posts made by users whose credibility cannot be verified. Source criticism please!
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2009, 11:13:20 AM »
oh geesh is that has got to be the lamest excuse i have heard.

but either way has no baring on serenty's memory issue at hand

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2009, 11:31:42 AM »
oh geesh is that has got to be the lamest excuse i have heard.

but either way has no baring on serenty's memory issue at hand

If you would have read and understood what you posted yourself you'd figure out my answer was explained there all the time.

And you still don't seem to understand that this _is_ the issue at hand.
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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2009, 11:39:03 AM »
you posted about 32 bit OS having a 2GB limit for usage per application  without using the /3GB switch in boot.ini

thats all fine and dandle if he was using 4GB in his system to start with

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Re: RAM Issue
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »
you posted about 32 bit OS having a 2GB limit for usage per application  without using the /3GB switch in boot.ini

thats all fine and dandle if he was using 4GB in his system to start with

No it's the reason why he sees 2Gb in the application instead of all his available ram.

Same exact thing happens with AH2. I for one example have two different computers with AH2 installed.

The other one is XP32 with 4Gb worth of ram sticks in it. The second is Win7 x64 with 8Gb worth of ram sticks in it.

First one reports 2048Mb of system ram (32-bit) even though the machine has 3,5Gb free. The second one repots 4096Mb of system ram available even though the machine has 7,5Gb free. Why? Because on a 32-bit subsystem a 32-bit app is limited to that 2048Mb and on 64-bit subsystem the app can utilize all the addressable 4096Mb.

Clear enough for you?
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