109's

[TUK]

Tuk, dt plus gondolas makes the 109 an overloaded pig.

How bout hitting incoming bombers...?

[TUK]

How bout hitting incoming bombers...?

Pretty much asking for (ALL-Purpose) 109, with the load out.  Give me your load outs with your 109,,,,
 

[Anaxogoras]

That's fine, but lose the dt.  The dt rack + gondolas is nearly equal to a 500lb bomb.

[TUK]

That's fine, but lose the dt.  The dt rack + gondolas is nearly equal to a 500lb bomb.

The racks = drag.. understood.. Is it better to go with 3 cans, no drop?

[WMLute]

For the 109's, there really is not one "all around" setup per se.

But the G14 and the K4 models are as close as you will get for "all around"  The G14 and the K4 models with the 30mm are great bomber killers.  (once you figure out the aim)  They can also hold their own with any and all fighters out there.

Don't bother with the 20mm gondolas on the G14 as the performance hit is not worth it (imho) unless you are ONLY going to fight bombers.  You take a huge maneruverability hit w/ the gondolas and it really hurts you when fighting against fighters.

A 30mm shell, just one shell, is enough to drop most planes, and 2-4 will kill any bomber. (usually)

So for an "all around" I would suggest the G14 and the K4 w/ the 30mm option.  You can kill bombers easily w/ the 30mm and are able to go toe to toe with any/all fighters.

(I also feel the drop tank is not worth the performance hit and it is very rare I take one.)

[AWwrgwy]

You seem to wonder into threads and, well, Just give no info for the thread..   You wanna talk about 109's fine, if you dont, go elsewhere please...  

Ouch.  I guess the shoe is on the other foot for me in this one.  I'm sooo sorry I interrupted.




I enjoy fighting against K-4's
(dead ones)


wrongway

[sunfan1121]

A new 109 driver should never take gondies, because you take a huge hit to all the things that matter in a 109, roll rate, climb rate, and the ability to leave your nose hanging for that extra split second. The gondies don't do anything that a 30mm can't.

[Anaxogoras]

A new 109 driver should never take gondies, because you take a huge hit to all the things that matter in a 109, roll rate, climb rate, and the ability to leave your nose hanging for that extra split second. The gondies don't do anything that a 30mm can't.

I agree with sunsfan except for the last statement.  It's not too hard to hit at long distance with the gondolas, whereas it's very difficult with the 30mm.

Tuk seemed to be ask about a buff-hunting setup for the 109, and so if you want to kill bombers, gondolas make sense.  You might even take the 30mm and the gondolas for some real hitting power.

[Whitey33]

Sunfan is right, but when familiar with 109, good set is G2 with gondolas. More firepower, 20mm are easier to shoot than 30mm and G2 can dogfight with gondolas. K4 is uber, but when approaching bombers from somewhere else than 6 o´clock with high speed, it will need lot of skill to take killshot with 30mm.

[uptown]

G14/K4 are more apt to make you pay for your mistakes then any of the other 109s.