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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2009, 11:41:58 PM »
. they TRY to make people afraid of things. as it is, i hve to hear from all of my non-flying friends, and of course, at 47, mom still calls me every single time she sees or hears anything about a crash. like she thinks i'm gonna stop flying because of it.

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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 03:40:31 AM »
Real shame, that group of aircraft used to be based out of Monmouth County Airport in NJ.  I spent part of my youth towing banners up and down the Jersey Shore and New York beaches.  I also earned some extra money flying the WWII aircraft to airshows all over the east coast, where the owner made a nice living putting them on display.  They used to have a P40 as well as the Spit.  I have time in the B25 and the P40.   
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 04:18:12 AM »
Heres a P40 that was there.
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 05:23:18 AM »
Heres a P40 that was there.
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Yea, that's it.  I just checked my log book, I have a little over 350 hours in that P40 and over 200 in the B25.  As I remember the B25 O2 system still worked, but the P40 was without a working system for a while so couldn't get over weather.  Neither could handle much ice.

The management company is no longer based out of Monmouth Airport, and might now be based at Millville, NJ.   
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 10:11:41 AM »


anyway, if you took any offense, there was none intended dude........

That's ok cap.  I was just trying to keep the subject line short and to the point.  As far as the media and your friends, just ignore em and keep having fun flying.  I could write a book on the stuff I've seen since the old Vineland City airport closed and we moved our plane there.  As I'm sitting here typing I'm thinking of all the times as a kid when we would get back to Millville at the end of a long day of flying and I would wake up to the wheels touching down on the runway only to fall back asleep and then finally wake up when the gyros would wind completely down to silence.....  I was probably nine or ten at the time.  I think my favorite character of all time out at Millville besides my dad was a guy by the name of Johnny Baird who was a great mechanic and has been gone for a long time but is definitely not forgotten by me.  Is there any old timers from Millville on this board?  Anyone remember runways 5-23?  I'm getting old.........
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2009, 12:20:20 PM »
I was an airport bum back in the 60's My Dad taught me to fly  in a J3 and an instructor by the name of Frank Fine signed me off for my private out of Colts Neck.  Took a check ride with Billy Gibson in 1970 and had my Commerical and instrument by 1971.  Towed banners and did flight instruction out of Colts Neck, Marlboro and Monmouth County Airports.   Flew for Monmouth Airlines (Beach 99 and DC3) and Eastern (727) and ferried those war birds around to airshows.  I left Eastern after one to many furloughs without pay and got a real job.  I still do Flight Instruction out of Monmouth County and like everyone else in aviation in NJ watched all the once great little airports close. 

Colts Neck was a grass  strip 6-24 2500 feet level and 15-33 1500 feet uphill. Night operations on 6 - 24 with it's one landing light and red reflectors at each end and each side of the run way.  Like flying into a black whole,  lots of deer to make it even more interesting.  To impress the ladies lots of night flights down to Atlantic City after the casinos lit up the night sky, landing at Bader Field and walking into AC or flying across Sandy Hook, up the Hudson River with New York City just turning on the light show.

As an instructor there was always the dual cross country from Colts Neck to Millville to the FSS when real live people provided a weather briefing and they were always happy to do a show and tell for the student pilots.  Then on to North Philly in PA for a semi busy airport with a real control tower to get the students over Mic fright.  Remember Light Gun Signals???
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2009, 01:20:10 PM »
I was an airport bum back in the 60's My Dad taught me to fly  in a J3 and an instructor by the name of Frank Fine signed me off for my private out of Colts Neck.  Took a check ride with Billy Gibson in 1970 and had my Commerical and instrument by 1971.  Towed banners and did flight instruction out of Colts Neck, Marlboro and Monmouth County Airports.   Flew for Monmouth Airlines (Beach 99 and DC3) and Eastern (727) and ferried those war birds around to airshows.  I left Eastern after one to many furloughs without pay and got a real job.  I still do Flight Instruction out of Monmouth County and like everyone else in aviation in NJ watched all the once great little airports close. 

Colts Neck was a grass  strip 6-24 2500 feet level and 15-33 1500 feet uphill. Night operations on 6 - 24 with it's one landing light and red reflectors at each end and each side of the run way.  Like flying into a black whole,  lots of deer to make it even more interesting.  To impress the ladies lots of night flights down to Atlantic City after the casinos lit up the night sky, landing at Bader Field and walking into AC or flying across Sandy Hook, up the Hudson River with New York City just turning on the light show.

As an instructor there was always the dual cross country from Colts Neck to Millville to the FSS when real live people provided a weather briefing and they were always happy to do a show and tell for the student pilots.  Then on to North Philly in PA for a semi busy airport with a real control tower to get the students over Mic fright.  Remember Light Gun Signals???

VAY, although it is supposedly locked into remaining an airport for at least 20 years, seems to be next on the list to go. it's a virtual ghost town anymore there. kenmarson(the club i fly in) even moved to the "W" this month.
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2009, 01:49:18 PM »
VAY, although it is supposedly locked into remaining an airport for at least 20 years, seems to be next on the list to go. it's a virtual ghost town anymore there. kenmarson(the club i fly in) even moved to the "W" this month.

It's to bad, the DOT of NJ took over KVAY a few years back, made a lot of fuss about working with GA business to keep it open.  All the old airfield owners, the ones that loved General aviation all are gone and it was pretty much easy pickens for the next of kin to swoop in and sell off the land. 

I haven't been into the Flying "W" for a number of years. I'm wondering how any flight schools will remain open with the economy as it is.  I haven't had a new student in two years.  Where Monmouth Airport at one time had an airline operations and three flight schools with full time instructors operating a total of 9 training aircraft and an additional 15 aircraft for rentals between them, now there is no airline operations, one flight school, no full time instructors, operating two training aircraft with one additional aircraft for rentals.

   
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2009, 02:12:53 PM »
It's to bad, the DOT of NJ took over KVAY a few years back, made a lot of fuss about working with GA business to keep it open.  All the old airfield owners, the ones that loved General aviation all are gone and it was pretty much easy pickens for the next of kin to swoop in and sell off the land. 

I haven't been into the Flying "W" for a number of years. I'm wondering how any flight schools will remain open with the economy as it is.  I haven't had a new student in two years.  Where Monmouth Airport at one time had an airline operations and three flight schools with full time instructors operating a total of 9 training aircraft and an additional 15 aircraft for rentals between them, now there is no airline operations, one flight school, no full time instructors, operating two training aircraft with one additional aircraft for rentals.

   

wow.......that's not sounding too good.

kenmarson still has 5(i think) instructors, and 8 or 9 aircraft. the problem i'm going to run into though, is that they;re down to a single 172, whereas they had 4 when i joined the club. 38RE is due to be out of the club next month, which'll  leave me with only the 152, or i'll need to transition to the pipers.  my only concern with transitioning to pipers, is that although they pretty much fly the same, i've seen and read about people that've done that, and if/when they had an incident, it was partially due to that. they were also in the same hour range as myself(approx. 200).

 the "W" still has their own flight school there too, but i don't know how many instructors they have. then finally, there is helicopter flight services, also located on the W. they were run out of VAY too. i think they have 4 or 5 instructors, and 3 Schweitzer cb300's of different variants.

 i forget the name of the company managing VAY now, but they just seem to not be willing to work with people. when steve schneider owned the place, it was a fun place to be, and to fly to and from. now, there's less friendly people there, the ramp, used to be so full, there were aircraft parked on the grass....now 1/2 of them are gone. they're making no real improvements at all there, although they did finally take down 2 rows of really nasty hangars.
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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2009, 03:17:29 PM »
Flew for Monmouth Airlines (Beach 99 and DC3) and Eastern (727)

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Re: TBM crash saturday in Millville NJ
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2009, 03:38:39 PM »
Would you happen to have known Terry Harrison?

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