turn off all channel in mid war and early war

[allaire]

Just do what I try to do lushe, have squadies or countrymen give you a heads up when you get a salute.

[Krusty]

Just remove the EWA and MWA from the arena list.

They were a grand experiment back when HTC was testing many things (including sequential base capture, time limits on respawn, various base capture coding, and multiple arena stress testing)

We now know multiple arenas work. We have them where we need them. SEAs now have much more flexibility and availability. LWAs have their own balancing code running. We no longer need (and going by the numbers, WANT) the EW or MW arenas. The majority of "pilots" in there are porking and milk running for score, and if anybody shows up they move to the OTHER undefended frontline, and if the person switches teams they move BACK so that the lone defender they are afraid of is stuck on country "X" for "Y" minutes.

These arenas have been more of a joke than the AvA lately, and with worse company inhabiting them. They no longer serve a purpose or a need (either for HTC's testing purposes or AH's players' enjoyment purposes) and should be removed.

[ImADot]

Just remove the EWA and MWA from the arena list.

Just remove one of the LW arenas and cap the remaining one to 200.  That will force everyone else to populate MW and EW.

My suggestion makes as much sense as yours.   

[Krusty]

Wrong. Given free will, 90% or more of any pilot that wants a fight has gone to a LW arena. The vast majority (99%) of all those in the EW and MW are milk runners avoiding fights.

People want fights, and they want them with the LW plane set. I fly early planes but enjoy flying them AGAINST late ones.

What makes sense is to get rid of the milk runner havens, and just put them into LWAs. Forcing players to fly where they don't want (EW and MW) to will simply make them log off and (eventually) cancel their accounts.

[Lusche]

And what do you gain by forcing the EW MW players to LW?

[Krusty]

They no longer ruin the fights the 1-2 "real" players want to have in the MW/EW, the cowardly behavior is not festered and bred into an entire sub-culture of players, they don't get their names listed on the front homepage as great testament to their ability to kill their second accounts, and on top of that they learn (at the hands of players that WANT to fight) that they need to step things up a notch if they want to be considered "skilled".

Frankly we're creating an environment that (right now) rewards them richly for actions they couldn't even begin to pull off in the LWAs. Throw them in with the rest of the players, let them absorb skills through osmosis for all I care. Or let them go to the TA where scores don't matter.

Instead we're showing them scores DO matter when all we do is let them reap the rewards by avoiding all fights and stealing only undefended bases.

I fail to see the point of keeping these servers alive anymore. They served their purpose. Much like the time limits after a pilot's death, they need to be done away with. Their time has come and gone.

[AWwrgwy]

Wrong. Given free will, 90% or more of any pilot that wants a fight has gone to a LW arena. 

Given free will, as we have seen by the plethora of whines about not being able to get into the "popular" arena, people will go where the numbers are.  If EW suddenly became the most populous arena, that is where everybody must be.




wrongway

[cobia38]

They no longer ruin the fights the 1-2 "real" players want to have in the MW/EW, the cowardly behavior is not festered and bred into an entire sub-culture of players, they don't get their names listed on the front homepage as great testament to their ability to kill their second accounts, and on top of that they learn (at the hands of players that WANT to fight) that they need to step things up a notch if they want to be considered "skilled".

Frankly we're creating an environment that (right now) rewards them richly for actions they couldn't even begin to pull off in the LWAs. Throw them in with the rest of the players, let them absorb skills through osmosis for all I care. Or let them go to the TA where scores don't matter.

Instead we're showing them scores DO matter when all we do is let them reap the rewards by avoiding all fights and stealing only undefended bases.

I fail to see the point of keeping these servers alive anymore. They served their purpose. Much like the time limits after a pilot's death, they need to be done away with. Their time has come and gone.

 you sir are sadly mistaken, MW is a place for many to escape the hord/gangbanging of LW and enjoy some good quality fights. MW is far more personal then LW imho. yes we torment and raz each other but when it comes down to it its all in jest.most of us bounce around between countrys looking for the good fights and good company.there is less running and more fighting.as for the perk padders,who cares.if thats what they want to do with there 15 bucks so be it
 i know for a fact that there is alot of peeps that come to MW for good fights and good company.....so the idea of ditching MW and EW is idiotic
 and if you think those that hang out in MW are less quallity pilot,you are sadly mistaken.
 


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[ImADot]

The vast majority (99%) of all those in the EW and MW are milk runners avoiding fights.

I guess I'm in the 1% then.  But I guess it depends on when you log in.

People want fights, and they want them with the LW plane set. I fly early planes but enjoy flying them AGAINST late ones.

Not everyone wants to fly LW planes.  I like flying EW/MW planes.  But, flying them in LW is boring; it seems all I do is avoid the BnZ and HO attempts and the gangtards who only care about killing something instead of fighting someone.  Seems to me there's less skill when the tards only fly the LW 4-cannon uber birds just because they want their name in lights after some quick kills.

Not to mention that people in LW will steal a kill from their own mother just to get the "atta boy" from their buddies.  I don't care about score and all that, but it gets old after spending a couple of minutes in a good fight and getting hits on the red guy to have some green guy swoop in with his 4-cannon bird and clear my twelve.

Most guys I meet up with in EW and MW will stay out of a fight if asked...and even ask if I need my twelve cleared instead of just swooping down and doing so.  LW is a good diversion now and then (like the DA), but I prefer the planes and people of EW and MW.

But, to each their own.  Play where you want, do what you want.  If you don't like it, don't go there.  Just like TV and movies...just because you don't like something, or find it offensive, doesn't give you the right to force everyone else away. 

Life is full of choices; make one for yourself and allow others the same opportunity.

'nuff said

[Krusty]

Claiming you're getting away from the hordes in the MW is a farce. Anytime you go in there it's the mini-hordes. The only difference is you're on the giving side. People take the fastest perk planes (typhs and p51Bs, La5FNs) and just hover over any field that dares pop up a dar bar at 15k

Then they chase you with the maximum range their P51Bs can provide, making cheap diving passes and running outside of icon range before turning around.

It's been this way every time I have gone into the MWA. Just a scared mini-horde. You're not getting away from anything in the MW, just hiding from the arena that's got more opposition.

Wrongway: the arena caps are in place on the late war arenas because that is where the action is, that is where the fights are, and that is where all of the players are. It's like WB's arenas, FR and RR. Nobody was using FR. For whatever reasons these people choose to fly in the LWA (be it friends, planeset, fights, whatever) the arena cap whining has nothing to do with the lack of use on the EW and MW arenas. There's more of an argument to keep the MWA around than there is for the EWA, I admit, but it's very slim. On average the MWA has less folks than the AvA does (and that's frickin' sad!)

[AWwrgwy]

Wrongway: the arena caps are in place on the late war arenas because that is where the action is, that is where the fights are, and that is where all of the players are. It's like WB's arenas, FR and RR. Nobody was using FR. For whatever reasons these people choose to fly in the LWA (be it friends, planeset, fights, whatever) the arena cap whining has nothing to do with the lack of use on the EW and MW arenas. There's more of an argument to keep the MWA around than there is for the EWA, I admit, but it's very slim. On average the MWA has less folks than the AvA does (and that's frickin' sad!)

I know why the arena caps are in LW.  I've seen more than one MW arena before, with caps.  I contend if MW suddenly became populated, or any other arena for that matter, that would be the one everybody would NEED to be in.  The sheep following the herd.

Remember when the arenas first split and there were no Early War aircraft enabled in Late War?



wrongway

[Lusche]

The only difference is you're on the giving side. People take the fastest perk planes (typhs and p51Bs, La5FNs) and just hover over any field that dares pop up a dar bar at 15k

Uh yeah, indeed all you can see in MW are Typhs, P-51B's La-5's...

[Bronk]

FM-2 has more kills..

[cobia38]

 A20 has more kills then pony and tiffy tgether 



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[dkff49]

to tell you the truth I go to MW on any Tuesday that I have a chance to play, which may not be very often. I do this to get away from the ganging and hording which does happen less in MW than LW, mainly due to the lesser numbers.

to comment on original post though:

I too think that they should turn off the all channel in MW and EW. I personally see no real reason to have it enabled. If you want contact with the other side you can use 200 like they do in LW.