Author Topic: Enable some LW kites on the carrier... !!! (Read 2609 times)

Kirin · « **on:** January 05, 2001, 08:03:00 AM »

I know that's all but historical but MA doesn't care about history anyway. If I see allied and axis planes winging each other and N1K2 taking of CVs behind CHogs I can see 109s taking off the carrier as well! If the FM let's one plane take off and land it on a carrier - HTC should LET IT as well.

Where's the point of not allowing it? If in RL a plane would be capable of carrier launch and there were carriers avaible they would use it - wouldn't they? There are no artificial restrictions for 30k pin-point bombing or extensive use of a the quite rare (RL) CHog, we have ammo counters and imperial measuring system everywhere... so why can't we launch our LW planes of the carrier? This option won't unbalance MA - on the contrary it will bring balance to it (hmm, somehow that sentence sounds familiar

). I am kinda sick seeing swarms of F4Us coming off the carriers and not being able to up in a LW plane from the carrier when sometimes there is no other option. It really hampers LW squads in applying effective strategies. We Luftwobbles have to take off from the rear bases and cannot launch surprise attacks from the fleet or defend a fleet being attacked. Aside this 1.05 is all about the navy and LW being let out of this - just look at the map...

Unless we have a historical arena with historical planeset and restrictions I see no point in not letting LW planes take off from CVs. And I guess there is a very slim chance we get the 109T or Ju87C...

Kirin, Ende

straffo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »

and VVS too (I'm badly missing my trusty Yak

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SKurj · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2001, 08:59:00 AM »

N1K's aren't takin off the carrier..

But hey Lettem have a 109 off the carrier! Which model 109 in AH is closest to the model the 109T was based on?

AKskurj

Westy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »

109"T" was basically a modified 109"E" but it was heavier and did not perform as well as an "E" Closest we have is the 109"F". Wouldn't bother me at all.

-Westy

Kirin · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2001, 10:14:00 AM »

Oops - sry 'bout the N1K2 but that's the first plane that come to my mind when I think of the annoying things in AH...

Zeke I meant of course!!

Yup, 109F4 maybe the closest thing we have to the 109T. Enabling VVS planes on carriers doesn't bother me at all - don't deny the dedicated pilots their fun in 1.05. As long it can take off a CV by its own power without any artificial help - let it fly!!

StSanta · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2001, 10:49:00 AM »

I am with Kirin here. With so many reality concessions already in place one more won't do any harm. The 109f could simulate the t.

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Ripsnort · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2001, 11:00:00 AM »

Not a HTC programmer, but I would think it would be a matter of finding a color scheme for the 109T, add alittle weight to the 109F (Landing gear toughened up?) and release it next version. Seems relatively easy to do in concept.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2001, 11:09:00 AM »

I'd rather see the 109T introduced as opposed to enabling the 109F on a carrier.

I'd also like to see the F4u-1C disabled from carriers. But that is purely for the sake of gameplay.

AKDejaVu

funked · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2001, 11:09:00 AM »

I'd like to see a fully modeled Bf 109T. Performance was actually a little better than the standard Bf 109E. It would still be a dog in this arena - only the A6M5 would be slower. But it would give the Waffles something to fly off the CV, and it DID see combat in WW2.

Weave · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2001, 02:52:00 PM »

We could always get HTC to model the Fiesler Storch for em. Think thats the only historical German carrier aircraft.

But as it was only used as a test for the feasability of taking off/landing an airplane on a ship, you'd hear the whines that it should be perked cause it didn't see wide use.

Weave

Nashwan · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2001, 04:16:00 PM »

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Originally posted by funked:
I'd like to see a fully modeled Bf 109T. Performance was actually a little better than the standard Bf 109E. It would still be a dog in this arena - only the A6M5 would be slower.

If it's properly modelled, the Seafire II should be the slowest fighter, max speed less than 340mph

SKurj · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2001, 06:41:00 PM »

Max speed of IIc that I have.. 333 mph at 5000 ft
A6M5 343mph at 19,700ft

Akskurj

brady · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2001, 07:13:00 PM »

NO!

Brady

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jihad · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2001, 10:05:00 PM »

Theres nothing "historical" about the main arena-enable all fighters from the carriers.

StSanta · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2001, 10:11:00 PM »

I am with jihad here. When we have more chogs in the air at one time than ever saw combat, I think it's pissing against the wind to whine about wrong plane types taking off from an aircraftcarrier in a *main arena that has made huge cutouts of realism for the sake of playability already*.

I thought the carriers would mean more dhogs, since I heard the chogs only few off normal bases. Guess I was wrong on both accounts.

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