turn off all channel in mid war and early war

[Ack-Ack]

Uh yeah, indeed all you can see in MW are Typhs, P-51B's La-5's...


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Only problem with that chart is the P-38J numbers are skewed by a small group of dedicated and very deadly P-38 drivers that make up the majority of the kills.  A few tours ago, three of us made up close to 50% of all kills with the Lightning in the MW arena but accounted for just a little over 25% of all flights and under 12% for total deaths.

So, Krusty should have stated "People take the best plane (P-38J Lightning) and just hover over any field that dares pop up a dar bar at 15k. 


ack-ack

[Lusche]

hehe, the chart was not meant to give any other point than to highlight the general value of K's rants and his "I don't like it, I don't know whats happening there, I don't wan't to play there, so shut it down" rant.
I considered a more serious and in depth answer for some time... but I realised it's not worth it.

[Krusty]

Don't insult me Lusche. Your out-of-context charts tell nothing of the picture you see when you actually fly the MW. Just like tempests have low usage in the LWAs, because they are perked so do P51s and typhs in the MW. Doesn't mean they get the most KILLS, but they sure as hell can disrupt a fight, or annoy the hell out of you until you land and log off. I fly 3 sectors chasing some cowards milk running, and they scream to their squaddies to meet them, and run into a cloud of 6 dots at 15-25k. You claim the fights are more personal, but I can get bounced from the stratosphere by rooks in the LW, and I can get ganged and picked by bish in the LWA. The fiber of pilots in MW has nothing to do with the quality of play, apparently.

You do like to bring your charts up. They're nice to look at once in a while. What gets me is that you constantly say "I'm not making a point" -- but you really are implying one with a heavy hand (doing it bluntly) every time you post your own numbers. You're reading into them whatever you want and claiming it's gospel truth, often relying only on something that's out of context to prove your point (which you should type into words, for clarity's sake).

Imadot: Hurr2C. Hotards all of 'em. Most used plane in midwar (and isn't it also in early war?). Far far overmodeled compared to the real thing, this plane is heavily used to steal just as many kills in MW as the spitties and P51s are used in the LW (oh, and PS the 4-cannon-LW planes? HAH! Least threat of all compared to the US/RAF rides).

Wrongway: you're putting the cart before the horse. The chicken before the egg. IF (hypothetically) the MW were more populated it would not simply draw crowds on this merit alone. It would only indicate more public interest. It would only lend justification for the MW's existence, which is currently lacking. Again, as I said the MW has more of a leg to stand on than the EW, to be sure, but it's a broken leg.

Folks want more personal fights they can log into LW Blue, which often has 100+ less players than LW Orange, and has more compact fights between the countries.

[Delirium]

I like the Midwar arena, it is too bad the numbers within are always so low. Aside from a few bad apples, it is what the DA should be like; close quarter fights where everyone knows everyone.

Regardless of what some people (requests to PM them denied btw) feel, many enjoy the MWA and some like Slapshot have said publicly they would leave AH if it was removed. I don't blame them, the attitudes (last time I was in there) were far superior to the ones within the LWAs.

[Ack-Ack]

I like the Midwar arena, it is too bad the numbers within are always so low. Aside from a few bad apples, it is what the DA should be like; close quarter fights where everyone knows everyone.

Regardless of what some people (requests to PM them denied btw) feel, many enjoy the MWA and some like Slapshot have said publicly they would leave AH if it was removed. I don't blame them, the attitudes (last time I was in there) were far superior to the ones within the LWAs.

I don't ever think I've ever seen Krusty fly in the MW arena in all the times I flew in there, so I really don't know where he is basing his information.  It's definintely not first hand experience.  He also has no clue as to why the EW arena isn't popular and it has nothing to do with the people that fly in there, they are just a by product of the problem and not the cause.

In a perfect world, 4+4+4 would equal 10.


ack-ack

[Murdr]

Just remove the EWA and MWA from the arena list.

<elbow in the ribs>  Many people enjoy MW 

[Delirium]

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I must be nice, I must be nice.

[Lusche]

Don't insult me Lusche. Your out-of-context charts tell nothing of the picture you see when you actually fly the MW. Just like tempests have low usage in the LWAs, because they are perked so do P51s and typhs in the MW.

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You do like to bring your charts up. They're nice to look at once in a while. What gets me is that you constantly say "I'm not making a point" -- but you really are implying one with a heavy hand (doing it bluntly) every time you post your own numbers. You're reading into them whatever you want and claiming it's gospel truth, often relying only on something that's out of context to prove your point (which you should type into words, for clarity's sake).

I am not constantly saying "I'm not making a point". Actually I usually do, and so I did in my posting. I clearly stated which point I'm trying to make, and your response again shows supports it. You knowledge of what's happening in MW is rather limited, as we can see again - the P-51B is NOT perked in MW, it's usage is not limited beyond usual ENY restrictions.

My initial question was "what's to gain by deleting EW & MW"
Your response and your follow up posting make perfectly clear that you don't have a rational answer to that. You don't like it there - that's fine. Just don't fly there, or come up with a few suggestions to improve that arenas. I did start to dislike the current state of EW some time ago, and beyond a few suggestions how it could maybe get improved, I just don't fly there much anymore.

But instead letting others enjoy what they are doing (and which doesn't really tangent if you don't fly there), you are asking for the arenas to get shut down.
Pretty much egoistically and immature. "I don't like it, so no one should be there". I find it particulay funny when you claim getting rid of EW & MW would even be to the benefit of the "real" players that enjoy fighting there.

And what do you gain by forcing the EW MW players to LW?

They no longer ruin the fights the 1-2 "real" players want to have in the MW/EW

But now I'm following Delirium's example, being nice and kind and simply leaving the thread alone.

[Bronk]

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Hmm I give this 90 Krusties on the BS scale.

[Traveler]

Well, if appearing as completely rude for not giving back any salute doesn't bother you, you should be fine... 

I usually depend on a squad mate to inform me on VOX that someone saluted me.  I just fine that whole text bar thing to be a distraction.  What I'd really like to do is block requests for joins.  It's just a total pain and it always seems to pop up at the worst time.  As for appearing rude when not replying to a salute, I think it's kind of silly, that whole salute thing, and to everyone I fly with I generally just say hello on VOX.

[oakranger]

Just remove one of the LW arenas and cap the remaining one to 200.  That will force everyone else to populate MW and EW.

My suggestion makes as much sense as yours.   

I agree.  What is the whole point of two late war arenas?  Maybe we could get more people in AvA again.

[dkff49]

I usually depend on a squad mate to inform me on VOX that someone saluted me.  I just fine that whole text bar thing to be a distraction.  What I'd really like to do is block requests for joins.  It's just a total pain and it always seems to pop up at the worst time.  As for appearing rude when not replying to a salute, I think it's kind of silly, that whole salute thing, and to everyone I fly with I generally just say hello on VOX.

traveler,

in your radio type ".showjoin" to move join request to your text bar instead of popup.

[Chalenge]

traveler,

in your radio type ".showjoin 0" to move join request to your text bar instead of popup.

Fixed 

[dkff49]

Fixed 

oops forgot the 0, weird though the training site doesn't mention that part.