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Offline Karnak

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« on: June 15, 2000, 02:57:00 PM »
Ok, the RAF thread's been beaten to death I think (time of death could probably have been called at half its current length, we've been beating a dead horse).

Now, what Japanese aircraft would you like to see in AH?  We're getting the A6M5b Zero "Zeke", so what next?

I would love to see a Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden "Jack" as the next Japanese fighter.  Saburo Sakai praised this fighter quite a bit.
I would like to get the Kawanishi H8K2 "Emily" as the first Japanese bomber.
A nice light bomber would be the Aichi B7A2 Ryusei "Grace".  All of these aircraft saw real service, and so would not be out of place.

All three of these aircraft have variants that could be introduced later with a minimum amount of work on the 3D files.

Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden "Jack"

J2M3  
Dimensions:              
Span  10.80 m  
Length  9.95 m  
Height  3.95 m  
Wing area  20.1 m2  
Weights:              
Empty  2,460 kg
Loaded  3,435 kg  
Wing loading  171.3 kg/m2  
Power loading  1.9 kg/hp  
Performance:              
Maximum speed  317 kt at 5,300 m  
Cruising speed  190 kt  
Climb to  6,000 m in 6 min 14 sec  
Service ceiling  11,700 m  
Normal range  1,025 naut miles  
Armament:
Two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon and two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 1 cannon (J2M3, J2M5, J2M6 and J2M7)
Four wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon (J2M3a, J2M5a, J2M6a and J2M7a)
External stores: two 60 kg bombs, or two 200 litre drop tanks
Powerplant:
One Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a fourteen-cylinder air-cooled radial, rated at 1,800 hp for take-off, 1,575 hp at 1,800 m and 1,410 hp at 4,800 m, driving a four-blade constant-speed metal propeller (J2M2, J2M3, J2M3a, J2M6 and J2M6a)
Accommodation:
Pilot in enclosed cockpit
Description:
Single-seat interceptor fighter. All-metal construction with fabric-covered control surfaces
 
   
   

Kawanishi H8K2 "Emily"

H8K2  
Dimensions:      
Span  38.00 m  
Length  28.13 m  
Height  9.15 m  
Wing area  160.0 m2  
Weights:      
Empty  18,380 kg  
Loaded  24,500 kg  
Maximum  32,500 kg  
Wing loading  153.1 kg/m2  
Power loading  3.3 kg/hp  
Performance:      
Maximum speed  252 kt at 5,000 m
Cruising speed  160 kt at 4,000 m  
Climb to  5,000 m in  10 min 12 sec  
Service ceiling  8,850 m  
Maximum range  3,862 naut miles
Armament:
20 mm Type 99 Model 1 cannon in bow, dorsal and tail turrets and two beam hatches, and 7.7 mm Type 92 machine-guns in ventral, port and starboard fuselage sides and cockpit hatches (H8K2, H8K3 and H8K4)
External load: two 800 kg torpedoes, or eight 250 kg bombs, or sixteen 60 kg bombs or depth-charges (H8K1 to H8K4)
Powerplant:
Four Mitsubishi MK4Q Kasei 22 fourteen-cylinder air-cooled radials, rated at 1,850 hp for take-off, 1,680 hp at 2,100 m and 1,540 hp at 5,500 m, driving four-blade metal propellers (H8K2, H8K2-L and H8K3)
Accommodation:
Crew of ten (H8K1 to H8K4). Crew of nine and 29 passengers or 64 troops (H8K2-L)
Description:
Four-engined long-range maritime reconnaissance flying-boat (H8K1 to H8K4) or transport flying-boat (H8K2-L). All-metal construction

   
   

Aichi B7A2 Ryusei "Grace"

B7A2  
Dimensions:    
Span  14.40 m  
Length  11.49 m  
Height  4.08 m  
Wing area  35.4 m2  
Weights:    
Empty  3,810 kg  
Loaded  5,625 kg  
Maximum  6,500 kg  
Wing loading  158.9 kg/m2  
Power loading  3.1 kg/hp  
Performance:    
Maximum speed  306 kt at 6,550 m  
Climb to  4,000 m  
in  6 min 55 sec  
Service ceiling  11,250 m  
Normal range  1,000 naut miles  
Maximum range  1,640 naut miles
Armament:
Two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon and one flexible rear-firing 7.92 mm Type 1 machine-gun (B7A1 and early production B7A2).
Two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon and one flexible rear-firing 13 mm Type 2 machine-gun (late production B7A2).
Bomb-load: one 800 kg torpedo or up to 800 kg of bombs.
Powerplant:
One Nakajima NK9C Homare 12 eighteen-cylinder air-cooled radial, rated at 1,825 hp for take-off, 1,670 hp at 2,400 m and 1,560 hp at 6,550 m, driving a constant-speed four-blade metal propeller (production B7A2)
Accommodation:
Crew of two in tandem enclosed cockpits
Description:
Single-engined carrier-borne torpedo and dive-bomber. All-metal construction with fabric-covered control surfaces

   
   
   


Most of my info was obtained from this site:

 http://www.skypoint.com/members/jbp/ijna/ijnaf.htm

What do you guys think of these selections?

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Offline Wanker

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2000, 03:03:00 PM »
Piloting the Emily would be awesome(8 250kg bombs!). Good choices, Karnak.

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2000, 03:10:00 PM »
Definately good choices. Esecially the "Raiden."   As for bombers even a "Peggy" would be a nice change from a "Betty" model.

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2000, 04:50:00 PM »
I don't care. Anything with speed and cannons.  

This Jack looks interesting.

Personally, my preference goes for the KI84.  

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2000, 05:38:00 PM »
I'm a big fan of anything that flew in the pacific.

P-38's Ki43II, f6f, Ki84,P-47,ki44, ki45
G4m, emily, Pby5a, all the flying boats. that stuff rocks
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the jack rocks... that stubby fighter would be great to see zooming around in AH.

need an a6m3 22 also
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2000, 07:23:00 PM »
All good choices, but I would like to see some ARMY aircraft too.  

 
 

Ki-67-I Hiryu. Allied code name Peggy.

Top speed: 333mph at 20,000ft.
Weight: 30,000lbs loaded. Wingloading: 42lbs/sq ft.
Ceiling: 31,000ft.
Range: 2,360 miles.
Armament: 1x20mm dorsal turret, 1x12.7mm nose and side blisters, 2x12.7mm tail turret.
Bombload: 1766lbs of bombs, or 1 aerial torpedo.

Go check out funked's Ki-102 and Ki-44 threads too.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2000, 11:14:00 PM »
Make me Randy!

   

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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2000, 06:26:00 PM »
You forgot Ki 61 II Kai and J2M_5_ ;p

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2000, 08:31:00 PM »
I like the Emily, but after doing some research today, I think I would prefer the Nakajima P1Y "Frances" or the Ki-57 "Peggy" as a second choice.

The Emily would be a close third  

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2000, 12:31:00 AM »
Wow... that Emily would be awesome. Bomber Recon and troop trans. If they could para out that would mean it could be a Jap transport for scenarios, and that with addition of a ju52 would cover that aspect of scenarios for all sides. not to mention we would see the first seaplane in any combat sim. well with the exception of CFS but noone takes that seriously anyways

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2000, 11:13:00 PM »
There's always been a prob with japanese planes. None can match american/british iron or the 109 high.
Except one it was produced late in the war from spare tony's.The added radial engines and it gave stangs and b29's fits at high alt.
What was it? the ki 100.It was produced in higher numbers than the f41c too.More of them saw action.
Its younger brother the tony is very similar in shape so programing time would be quicker.It is also the only other japanese plane thats ok at high alt.
If you want a plane that guys will fly as much as 109's or spits this is the plane.A nik2 or ki 84 cant be used in some sits in this game. The fight is just to high for them.

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2000, 02:31:00 AM »
Yeah, 330mph at 32k will really show those US fighters a thing or two.  

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2000, 02:54:00 PM »
Anybody new have opinions on these?

I still REALLY want the Emily.  

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2000, 11:14:00 PM »
Im not new. But I really like your choices.
Always liked the look of the grace.

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2000, 08:03:00 PM »
my vote goes for:
Ki61 "Tony"
Ki43 "Oscar"

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