Author Topic: How Hot is too Hot?  (Read 358 times)

Offline RobbZero

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How Hot is too Hot?
« on: March 16, 2009, 09:10:42 PM »
My PC reboots a lot at random. Sometimes cuz of BSOD. Other times cuz of overheating CPU and/or GPU. On my last reboot I went straight to BIOS to see what my CPU's temp was at and it must've been over 80ºC (176ºF) causing a reboot for CPU to protect itself. I've touched my heatsink in of my CPU before and it is SCORCHIN' hot. Same goes for my GPU. I'll have my nVidia Monitor goin' and I'll check in on it now and then while I play AH and it gets hot fast. Don't really have a good idea of what an extreme temperature is for a CPU/GPU.

So my main question here is: How hot is too hot?

Offline BaldEagl

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Re: How Hot is too Hot?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 11:22:02 PM »
If your machine is shutting down due to heat it's too hot.  Remeber when you see 80C in the BIOS after a re-boot it's already cooling down.

Intel CPU's are rated somewhere around 100C and Nvidia graphics cards are rated somewhere over that but that doesn't mean you won't experience issues before then.

I don't like to run any of my components over 60C under full load.  My E6700 runs about 45C under load and it's overclocked, my 8800 GTS runs about 50C and my motherboard northbridge runs about 45C.

Have you taken the side panal off the case to make sure all of your CPU, GPU and case fans are spinning up properly?  Have you entered the BIOS to set your case fans (and motherboard fan if applicable) to 100% and set up a CPU thermal profile?  Have you installed a third party utility like Riva Tuner to control your GPU fan speed?

Most likely your CPU heatsink/fan is not properly seated.  Go to Radio Shack, buy some Arctic Silver 5, and re-seat/re-mount the heatsink/fan.  You might want to consider an aftermarket heatsink/fan.  I'm using an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (~$25) and it dropped my CPU temps 10-15C vs the stock Intel unit.

Since you're experiencing these problems make sure that, at least for now, you have the thermal managment options enabled in your BIOS (C1E enhanced halt state, TM1, TM2, etc... It sounds like you do or it wouldn't have shut down).  People say you should disable these if overclocking but I'm OC'd from 2.66 to 3.2 Ghz and still have them all enabled without issue.

Post here or PM me if you need more help.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 11:25:22 PM by BaldEagl »
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Offline RobbZero

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Re: How Hot is too Hot?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 11:32:07 PM »
For right this moment, off hand, I can tell you that not all fans are spinning in my case cuz the new PSU that I installed doesn't have as many power connections as the old one. So all I have going for fans right now are the CPU and GPU fans. Looking at my nVidia Monitor now and it tells me the System temperature is holding at 41ºC (105.8ºF).

Gonna go take a look at my BIOS in regards to the fan speeds and such.

Offline Delirium

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Re: How Hot is too Hot?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 11:46:08 PM »
So all I have going for fans right now are the CPU and GPU fans.

I'm fairly certain not venting the box itself is a bad idea, you need to get those other fans up and running. At the very least get a regular house fan and blow it across the case until you can get the Y splitters you need.
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Offline BaldEagl

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Re: How Hot is too Hot?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 11:47:18 PM »
If your case fans have 3 pin connectors you should be able to just plug them into any available 3 pin fan connector on your motherboard.  My case fans had 3 pin to molex adapters.  I removed the adapters and plugged them into the mobo.
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