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Offline Die Hard

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2009, 06:21:54 PM »
The average Spit16 pilot probably doesn't know what flaps are, to say nothing of actually using them in combat. So if a Spit16 drops flaps you are not fighting an average Spit16 driver. Flaps down a Spit16 will fly circles around an A-5. The only German fighter that can hang with the Spit16 in a stall fight like that is the 109F-4.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2009, 06:51:31 PM »
the A5 cam actually float with full flaps DAMN good compared to what you (or your opponent) would expect..  you will be buisy on the stick though, it wants to snap the entire time, but if you can wrestle with it, you can get some very decent and more importantly UNEXPECTED low speed maneuvers out of it.

I dont have a film, but for example yesterday I was helping some folks in GVs when a spit came tearing in, I dodged his first BNZ attempt and kicked hard rudder untill I slowed enough to deploy full flaps..  sure enough immediately the spitty was more than happy to blow all his E and have a turn fight, so in short order the fight went into scissors, each time me getting closer and closer to a gun solution, but just as he was about to cross my gun sight he just flat out ran out of fly and went down in the trees..  once the fight got slow it probably lasted around 2  minutes.. which is an eternity, the entire time I was never close to being out-turned.

I think the biggest ADVANTAGE of the A5 is exactly as stated "it cant turn" usually by the time your opponent figures out that statement isn't exactly accurate.. its too late.

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2009, 07:28:54 PM »
Quote from: Wingnutt on March 21, 2009, 06:51:31 PM


I think the biggest ADVANTAGE of the A5 is exactly as stated "it cant turn" usually by the time your opponent figures out that statement isn't exactly accurate.. its too late.




And that's what kills alot of pilots, they assume that the A5 is similar to the later versions, which isn't the case. She'll give you a quick surprise and a quicker trip to the tower if you under estimate it, which 75% of the MA population do.  ;)
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2009, 07:46:55 PM »
Quote from: Wingnutt on March 21, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
at full flaps the A5 will handily outmaneuver a spit16 in a stall fight.

AAAAHHHHHH HAHAHAHAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAAA HAHA HA HA ahha haha .. . ha..   

Wow. 
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2009, 07:54:00 PM »
Yeah guys, don't delude yourself.  The 190s are arrows. They fly straight and sting.  You can't out-spitfire spitfires in them.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2009, 08:24:27 PM »
Arrows don't fly that straight.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #66 on: March 21, 2009, 08:44:14 PM »
Quote from: StokesAk on March 21, 2009, 08:24:27 PM
Arrows don't fly that straight.

Luft arrows do.  :cool:
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2009, 09:20:49 PM »
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AAAAHHHHHH HAHAHAHAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAAA HAHA HA HA ahha haha .. . ha..

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Yeah guys, don't delude yourself.  The 190s are arrows. They fly straight and sting.  You can't out-spitfire spitfires in them.

exactly why its so deadly  :cool:
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2009, 07:02:43 AM »
Wow. 

Just.

Wow...

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2009, 07:19:49 AM »
Quote from: Urchin on March 22, 2009, 07:02:43 AM
Wow. 

Just.

Wow...



  noooo its SHAM WOW  :D
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2009, 08:16:13 AM »
Quote from: Wingnutt on March 21, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
at full flaps the A5 will handily outmaneuver a spit16 in a stall fight.

No flaps the spit 16 turns @ 38% better than the a5.

With flaps the spit turns @ 30% better.

Maybe if you are figting a total idiot noob with their stall limiter on and no clue what they are doing you will outmaneuver a spit16 in a a5.  But vs. a pilot that has even the slightest clue what they are doing the a5 should be dead meat.

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2009, 09:54:40 AM »
Quote from: Wingnutt on March 21, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
at full flaps the A5 will handily outmaneuver a spit16 in a stall fight.

 :huh  handily?  :huh  in a stall fight?  :huh
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2009, 10:23:04 AM »
Quote from: WMLute on March 22, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
No flaps the spit 16 turns @ 38% better than the a5.

With flaps the spit turns @ 30% better.

Maybe if you are figting a total idiot noob with their stall limiter on and no clue what they are doing you will outmaneuver a spit16 in a a5.  But vs. a pilot that has even the slightest clue what they are doing the a5 should be dead meat.



This is the line some of these "uber pilots" seem to forget.  :lol  95% of the spit pilots in this game haven't get a clue, most don't even know what the flaps are for let along know how to use them. I've out maneuver spits with a goon before, but that doesn't make it uber, nor does it make me a great "pilot". It just proves the point that most spits today are noobes with no skills.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2009, 07:40:13 PM »
I flew the A5 in one sortie before I hit the sack...I got one kill in a turn fight and I HO'ed an A6M cause I had a PW. :D
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2009, 08:03:24 PM »
and you learned what for the night spikes?  :D
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