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Offline Schlitz

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2009, 12:03:33 PM »
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2009, 12:15:58 PM »
Paul McCartney was the first bring the bass up in the mix like we're used to hearing today.  While there are better players, he deserves kudos for his inovation on the instrument.  He is also one of the most melodic players of all time.  I won't make a bold statement like "there would be no modern bass as we know it without McCartney" but he was right there at the cusp and deserves his place as an original inovator of the instrument.  Add into this the fact that, whether they'd admit it or not, Paul inspired a generation of musicians to pick up the bass by bringing it to the fore as an instrument that really mattered in the mix, and Paul gets my vote as being the greatest bassist of all time.

I disagree with most of the above quote as McCartney is not the "innovator" of the Bass.   Jamerson holds a much stronger place in that category.   His 62 Fender P-Bass (The Funk Machine) was deemed "unplayable" by Entwhistle, Bruce and many other "top bassists".   He is the ONLY bass player I know of that "made an electric bass sound like an upright."    He never changed the flatwound strings on his bass, on top of the fact they were raised as high as he could get them.  

Not to mention this fact:  Bernard Odum, Anthony Jackson, Jack Bruce, John Entwistle, Bernard Edwards, Jaco Pastorius, John Paul Jones, Robert DeLeo, Mike Watt, Billy Sheehan, Victor Wooten, and Paul McCartney have claimed James Jamerson as their primary influence.

Jamerson also was recollected by fellow Funk Brothers as: "Laying on his back and played What's Going On? and Mercy, Mercy Me, because he was drunk and hung over."  

James Jamerson, NOT Macca, brought the Bass to the front of the Music scene.   He played on more #1 hits, as did the Funk Brothers, than the Beatles, Stones, Elvis and The Beach Boys combined.   His "tone" is tops.  


I think Cthulhu knew my first reply was "quick, but there is something Karaya isn't saying."   The above is why I responded with a single name.   There is no comparison to Jamerson, everyone else is fighting for 2nd place.  
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2009, 12:30:16 PM »


Bill Dance is the greatest Bass player out there. I mean LOOK :O at that Bass he has there!!!!!!








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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2009, 01:28:46 PM »
I was told (a long time ago) that the first Metallica bass player was the best ever.

I never heard ron mcgovney play, who first played bass for metallica, but i think your friend meant cliff burton, and i agree.
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2009, 01:43:05 PM »
Starting to wonder if any of these guys know who he was.

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2009, 01:45:50 PM »
  Im a huge early Metallica fan, but I could never get to like the bass solo. That said Id say Flea, or Les but over the years theres been lots of great bassists, many Ive probably never heard.

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2009, 01:46:06 PM »
"The Who"  HELLO!!! :frown:

thats exactly what hes saying " WHO???"  

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2009, 01:49:18 PM »
thats exactly what hes saying " WHO???"  

"Who" is on first!!
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2009, 02:07:58 PM »
I disagree with most of the above quote as McCartney is not the "innovator" of the Bass.   Jamerson holds a much stronger place in that category.   His 62 Fender P-Bass (The Funk Machine) was deemed "unplayable" by Entwhistle, Bruce and many other "top bassists".   He is the ONLY bass player I know of that "made an electric bass sound like an upright."    He never changed the flatwound strings on his bass, on top of the fact they were raised as high as he could get them.  

Not to mention this fact:  Bernard Odum, Anthony Jackson, Jack Bruce, John Entwistle, Bernard Edwards, Jaco Pastorius, John Paul Jones, Robert DeLeo, Mike Watt, Billy Sheehan, Victor Wooten, and Paul McCartney have claimed James Jamerson as their primary influence.

Jamerson also was recollected by fellow Funk Brothers as: "Laying on his back and played What's Going On? and Mercy, Mercy Me, because he was drunk and hung over."  

James Jamerson, NOT Macca, brought the Bass to the front of the Music scene.   He played on more #1 hits, as did the Funk Brothers, than the Beatles, Stones, Elvis and The Beach Boys combined.   His "tone" is tops.  


I think Cthulhu knew my first reply was "quick, but there is something Karaya isn't saying."   The above is why I responded with a single name.   There is no comparison to Jamerson, everyone else is fighting for 2nd place.  

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2009, 02:08:47 PM »
Not real into the bass, love John Entwhistle's playing though.

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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2009, 03:27:01 PM »

I heard a story that after Cliff Burton died Claypool tried out for Metallica.  After his audition James Hatfield said thanks but your to good.  I dont remember where I hear the story... I think it was on VH1 Metallica behind the music.


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I would have to agree with that.  Les Claypool fits only where he is.....in the front with his bass taking complete control of the song.  He would be an absolute nightmare for an established band with guitar players used to being in the limelight.   :aok
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2009, 04:16:58 PM »
Sorry....quite frankly McCartney is a joke as a Bassist.  The beatles re recorded many of Motowns hits.  And Jamerson was around longer then McCartney

and influenced McCartneys Bass playing.  McCartney to Jamerson is like comparing Jose Canseco to Babe Ruth. Can't happen is laughable.

Jamerson.....member of the rock and roll hall of fame as a side man.  So is Benny Benjamin.

I don't know why they are listed as side men!  If it weren't for Musicians like them there would have been no Motown.

Jazz........more then likely why a lot of people haven't heard of Jamerson.  Not a great many of us that really like and listen to Jazz.

While recording a track...Jamerson, Benjamin etc. would start something out...then one by one others would jump in with something to fit.

No music written, they just laid down the track for the tune.  talk about creativity!  Jamerson laid down the bottom line like no other.

Creativity is what Jamerson had that most Bass players don't.  Can't be a musician without creativity.

There is a difference between a technician and a musician.  To be a musician you had to be both.

To many technicians listed in this post and few musicians.

That is why hands down....no contest...don't even think it.... Jamerson is da man!

Also....comparing my age to a lot of folks here I'm regarded as a geezer   :D  but that age gives me the

experience of listening to rock and roll since its' birth to the present.

Jamerson da man....end of story, no debate, it ain't even close or fair to compare him to others.

He was the creator of the modern bassists sound.

BTW the majority of those listed in this post...if not all mention Jamerson as their chief influence.
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2009, 04:23:23 PM »
Cliff Burton (1st bassist for Metallica).  He was a MANIAC on that bass.  I've never seen anyone since that can play a 4 string bass with the speed and accuracy that he could. 
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2009, 04:35:02 PM »
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Re: Who's the Greatest Bass Player Ever?
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2009, 04:37:28 PM »
All a matter of taste:
McCartney is the best instinctive melodic player to ever lay hands on flatwounds.  Technically average but the melodies he came up with were so well matched to the structure of whatever he played that it was pure midas touch.

Entwhistle of course a great technical player.  A great musician.  Same with Geddy Lee, only better.

Chris Squire invented a sound no one has come close to.  His use of the Rickenbacker 4001 is legendary to anyone who knows anything about founding the modern bass.  Listen to Rituals part I and II.  Listen to Close to the Edge...hell....listen to anything Yes recorded between 69 and 79.....

Tom Peterson, my man who invented the 12 string bass.  Another player like McCartney, superb melodies yet he has a technical ability that is still unique.

A guy I always thought was a great player is Ron Blair from the Heartbreakers.  Great tone, great melody...great feel for the bottom end.

Jack Bruce......one of the great English bassists.  A great age improv man.  His EB3 was thunder in a box.

John Stirratt from Wilco is a bassist I have enjoyed listening to for many years, a great touch and even better tone.

Going to call props out to my man Bill Wyman for playing bass and making a groove like no other ever has.

Lots of bassists today are great players....unfortunately not much great music to go along with them.

Never had any use for Eddie Van Sheehan.
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