Author Topic: Stop the Search for a Japanese Bomber!, meet the Nakajima P1Y "Ginga" (Frances)  (Read 1881 times)

Offline Hangtime

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Considering Possible Frances Tactics..

'Hmmmmmm.. That 20mm in the nose is NOT fixed. It's 'gunned...'

'This bird looks to be very manuverable.. fast.. controllable airspeed in the dive....' (assuming it was/had)  

BREIFING: ".. we level bomb the hell outta the dump from 22k at 350... that works. Then; all light and ready ta fight, lets put a gunner in the nose with that flex-mounted little savage 20mm pop gun. Tell the pilot to drop from on top and turn like hell with anything right down to the deck, then run out.. "

Mommy!

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Offline juzz

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Can we get the version that carried this little thing?  
 

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Yes Juzz, Hell Yes!

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Down boy! Down! Bad funked!

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Offline Vermillion

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Juzz, you got any hard performance numbers on the Ju-88S3 ?

I keep hearing that its a really fast Ju-88, but I have never seen any numbers on it. Was curious.

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Nothing concrete. Somewhere in the region of 380mph. There were 3 different engines: S-1 had BMW 801G, S-2 had BMW 801TJ, and S-3 had Jumo 213A. I think they all had GM-1, so any version would be good to 30,000ft.  

This site: Die Luftwaffe, has some numbers for the Ju 88S-1.

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Offline Vermillion

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So did any of the "S" versions actually make it into full scale production or were they just prototypes?

None of my books even mention a "S" at all.

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Offline Wanker

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Ginga or Mary Ann?

 

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The S-1 had a top speed of 379 mph at 26k, powered by 2 BMW 801G-2 engines both with GM-1 boost they produced 1,430 hp at 24k with GM-1 it could also carry up to 4,406 lb of bombs.

However, its good performance sacraficed defensive armament, it only had 1 13mm MG 151 facing rearward with only 250 rounds.

The first S-1 initial production models were delivered in early 1944 albeit in small numbers, I don't have a number on how many were produced.

The S-2 was actually very impressive, it was powered by 2 supercharged BMW 801TG and produced 1,500 hp at 40,000 ft. S-2 also upgraded to a pair of 7.92mm MG 81 instead of the S-1s single MG 151, bomb load was upgraded to 6,614 lb by the addition of a wooden pannier 'tray' which was originally from the JU-88 A-15. A very small number of S-2s were delivered during the spring and summer of 44.

The S-3 was an upgraded version with two Junker Jumo 213A but with the bulky GM-1. Only a few of these aircraft were delivered before the cancellation of the S program in the late summer of 44.



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Offline Vermillion

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Thanks Nath   Impressive numbers

Come on banana, its a proven fact that most guys prefer Mary Ann  

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Hmm, now that you mention it,

"Mary": Mitsubishi Ki-30 (Type 97 light bomber)
"Ann": Kawasaki Ki-32 (Type 98 light bomber)
They were developed as a result of the '36 competition and were very close in performance.

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nice verm

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pea-you-en-tee!

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Hey Nath, the MG 151 isn't a 13mm  

Just sayin'  

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