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Offline Larry

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in the movie battle of britain
« on: March 21, 2009, 03:33:18 AM »
The German "fighters" were actually Hispano Aviación HA-1112 M1L ''Buchons," painted to look like Me-109 fighters








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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 03:43:45 AM »
The German "fighters" were actually Hispano Aviación HA-1112 M1L ''Buchons," painted to look like Me-109 fighters








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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 03:52:53 AM »
No its else were ... how ever.
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     people had been sacked, wish it to     
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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 03:53:56 AM »
 :rofl
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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 03:58:12 AM »
The German "fighters" were actually Hispano Aviación HA-1112 M1L ''Buchons," painted to look like Me-109 fighters


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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 09:17:06 AM »
Repeat please.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXf1bhEEXd0

Second favorite part of that whole movie. And oddly enough, I was just thinking of it this morning.  :confused:
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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 01:35:51 PM »
And why were Buchon's used?
Well, no CGG and those were the only 109's available in enough numbers.
Even today this would be a problem.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 06:47:47 PM »
And why were Buchon's used?
Well, no CGG and those were the only 109's available in enough numbers.
Even today this would be a problem.

I can deal with CG, its the way they use them that annoys me to no end. If they filmed them like they used to (with a CG "camera plane" and none of those zero-distance fly-bys) they'd be much better IMO. Just because a computer lets you do something doesn't mean you have to do it.
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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 10:03:40 PM »
I can deal with CG, its the way they use them that annoys me to no end. If they filmed them like they used to (with a CG "camera plane" and none of those zero-distance fly-bys) they'd be much better IMO. Just because a computer lets you do something doesn't mean you have to do it.

But see, the thing about doing it without CG, by using actual planes, that means money goes to a warbird to help keep it flying!

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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 05:10:30 AM »
Exactly.
Watch Dark Blue World. Actual footage vs CG. However, today the CG just gets better and better. IMHO the bad side is that it gets overused and things start looking unreal
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 07:26:36 AM »
My dad worked on the The Battle of Britain, he was part of the team of R/C modellers who built and flew the 90 odd R/C planes they used in the film. A few things I can recall he said about the film:

The R/C Stukas were powered by 15cc engines and were faster than the 10cc powered Spits and Hurricanes. They had to throttle them way back so the fighters could keep up.

There is a sequence where two Stukas dive bombing the radar station have a mid air collision. This wasn't originally in the script. Dad and another pilot had an accidental mid air while making dive bombing runs on a camera safety cage. They thought they were going to get reamed for wrecking two aircraft and holding up the shoot but the director was delighted and had the script rewritten to incorporate the shot.

All the R/C planes were destroyed in the film. The special effects guys put balloons filled with petrol in the fuselage and ignited them by R/C. This tended to just make the wings blow off in one piece so they started sawing part way through structural parts to make the plane break up more realistically. They also attached dummy pilots to the tail of some planes and released them just before the explosion.

Dad spent ages building three R/C He 111s for the film. The shape of the Heinkel was difficult to get right, lots of double curvatures etc. Also the thing has loads of individual bomb bay doors all of which had to work. What really annoyed him was that the film company got short of money and he never got to fly them. Instead they filled the nose with concrete, suspended them from a helicopter and dropped them into the sea. The sequence where you see all the tail surface control cables snapping on a HE 111 as the crew bail out is to disguise the fact that the dropping cables snapped on one of the aircraft and can be seen trailing as it hits the sea.

Dad's the guy to the left of the Heinkel.



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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2009, 07:38:15 AM »
"So, let me get this straight, you build R/C aircraft and then blow them up for a living?"

"Yeah."












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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2009, 07:41:45 AM »
In the film game, it's considered better than blowing up the real ones..... :D

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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2009, 07:44:40 AM »
LOL.

Wish they'd had that approach on 633 Squadron.

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Seriously though, your Dad may have been the coolest person in the Universe. Ever.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: in the movie battle of britain
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2009, 08:06:19 AM »
In the film game, it's considered better than blowing up the real ones..... :D
It must be genetic thing then? model planes to skins.
What a wonderful bit of film history there I am going to have to look at the credits now more closely.