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Offline Agent360

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Allies did not use a crediable force
« on: March 22, 2009, 09:48:35 PM »
The muppets flew around an entire hour with no contact. WHAT we did find was a lone scout flying on the deck purposely flashing V93, A82 . A single rtb player found him south of A92 at about T+50. At T+65 we saw a single bomber group come in from the west.

I am pretty sure a single buff group with a NOE fighter to flash bases does not constitutesa credible attack.

I do not believe the the allies made a creditable attack on the A82 or V93. Further it specifically states in the rules that "flashing bases" for the purpose of a faint is not allowed.

There were 4 other squads on our patrol area and none saw any contact. I think there were around 50 or more fighters who flew around for an hour watching the bases flash due to the twittling fighter on the deck.

It seems lately we are having more and more "gaming the game" instead of "playing the game".




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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2009, 09:54:54 PM »
VMF-251 was escorting LCA to hit 82 and 93. VMF-251 was sweeping to soften up fighter defenses, with LCA providing the strike package. 251 got wiped out by AKs and 325th Checkertails. LCA was down by T+60 after what made it through dropped on 82, but before anyone reached 93.

So yeah, there was a strike package. It just got exterminated before it could hit both targets.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2009, 11:48:07 PM »
The bug reported that the south east side of Italy got hit hard.  Mostly of the allies where there.  The western part of Italy didnt get much of anything.  The bug try to send you guys over to help us out.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 08:42:29 AM »
So yeah, there was a strike package. It just got exterminated before it could hit both targets.

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Great defensive plan...well executed by all.  Nice to be on the other side of the smackdown for a change - even if I had to glide my 109 down from 20k after getting engine shot out.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 08:47:39 AM »
  It was like the Roach Motel for us. We got in..we just didnt get out. Not using the A20 much I used up my ammo strafing a hangar down. By the time I needed it, it was gone.

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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 09:23:56 AM »
after over an hour of -nothing-  most of AOM landed and went to the mains in disgust,  Tec and myself decided to rearm and headed towards NME territory when we reached there airfield at around 20 k, we were soundly pounced upon by an uncountable number of spits mostly with a major alt advantage :rofl

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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2009, 10:31:07 AM »
 Was quite rewarding and yummy for the UNFORGIVEN  ;)  wtg

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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 10:47:04 AM »
I don't envy the allies...the axis fielded 25% more fighters than their opposition.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 12:24:45 PM »
The 367th was also tasked with escorting the 83-92 strike.  Our formation of P-40s was attacked on the way to the rally point by 6-8 +Precision 109s. All attempts to break contact and make the rendezvous were unsuccessful. By the time we dispatched these 109s we were already too low and slow to catch the bombers. We also had two or three more 109s harassing the formation and preventing us from regaining our altitude. At this point most of the squad was flying bent birds and extremely low on ammo. But we decided to turn nose on 93 and attempt to arrive before the formation and tie up some of the CAP. I don’t believe we made it to within 40miles of 93 before we encountered the Unforgiven, were overwhelmed and killed. Sorry we couldn’t provide some entertainment, we were too busy getting out arses kicked.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 12:52:04 PM »
The 367th was also tasked with escorting the 83-92 strike.  Our formation of P-40s was attacked on the way to the rally point by 6-8 +Precision 109s. All attempts to break contact and make the rendezvous were unsuccessful. By the time we dispatched these 109s we were already too low and slow to catch the bombers.

Arses kicked?  At least some of you rtb'd.  Your attackers did not. :P
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 02:30:39 PM »
Despite being shot up and low on ammo we attempted to make it to 93 and support LCA. We didn’t know the bombers were already dead. We were able to knock down a few but none of us made it home.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2009, 03:21:43 PM »
Hmmm... the logs show some of the 367th as having landed safely.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2009, 04:46:08 PM »
I saw that too. Don’t know where that’s coming from but if you look at the detailed report all our aircraft were shot down. Couple of the guys who died early joined the remaining a/c… could it be counting those?
Ah well, it was an exciting frame just one of those were everyone knows before we launch that it’s going to be a one way trip.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2009, 05:07:30 PM »
The only successful landing I saw was as a gunner-observer, and that person had all ready been shot down.
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Re: Allies did not use a crediable force
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2009, 09:31:47 PM »
The LCA was about 2 sectors from A82 when Saxman reported contact ahead. We turned from our course to avoid contact, and was able to do so. We then went nose on to target. Our formation separated a bit in the turn and and a few B-26's in the back were already engaged with 109's. By the time we were 60 seconds out we had lost 25% of our planes. I was bounced 15 seconds from drop and had to switch to my guns. I was able to switch back and make a drop but missed. Then was shot down shortly after. Most of the B-26's fell to about the same fate. I gunned for the last B-26 and just about made it to target before being bounced and shot down by 3 FW190's and at least a dozen 109's.

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