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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2009, 12:24:57 PM »
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however the pilot is 80%+ of the equation.

While I agree I have to point out , at least in real life, "doctrine" also plays a key role. Case in point would be the rules of engagement that limited the Mig-21 against the F-4 in Vietnam. Fact is the Reds just didn't trust their pilots and kept them slaved to air controllers and restrictive doctrine that didn't utilize the strengths of the aircraft. The Arabs were famous for this to, or "infamous". I always wondered if the Soviets set themselves up for failure against the Finns, in the same way, even before a shot was fired.

By the same token western air forces have always dominated not just due to our talent level but also because we allowed doctrine to improvise and flourish. We didn't worry about our interceptors having to much fuel and the pilot using it to fly to Russia with. Our air doctrine was setup for winning and evolving.....but I'm off on a tangent....

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2009, 12:34:01 PM »
according to the current stats, P40E kills the crap out of 51Ds and Spit16s  :O

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2009, 12:37:58 PM »
Honestly, I surprised the 51 is over 1.0

+1.  Plenty of good 51 sticks, but far, far more n00bs.

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The Yaks, I would say, I "fear" the most.  Actually, I try to avoid them in furballs.  It is a very capable fighter and the light ammo load almost ensures that a decent cartoon pilot is driving it since most newer players are horrible shots (present company excluded since Im still a horrible shot).

1v1, sure.  But if we're all going to go around in a circle taking cheap shots in a horde, I'd rather the Yak not be saddled up on me the whole time.  ;)

Thinking about it, I'm more wary of Yak9U's than I am of Spit 16's.  The 37mm Yak?  Not so much.  Performance falls off enough to allow room for exploitation.

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2009, 01:20:15 PM »
I agree completely about the yak.

Yaks, 109's and the 152 all get my immediate attention and respect. You just assume that the guy flying it is an "ace" until he shows otherwise.

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2009, 01:59:49 PM »
I agree completely about the yak.

Yaks, 109's and the 152 all get my immediate attention and respect. You just assume that the guy flying it is an "ace" until he shows otherwise.
I concur completely. Past experience tells me to do the same with Yaks & 109's. The 152 can be a bit of a sleeper though, because it's easy to mistake it for just another 190 (I tend to initially assume all 190's are Dora's) until you're already engaged. Then you have to rethink your tactics real quick.
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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2009, 03:05:42 PM »
Been flying the yak all tour. Have made the most of my kills in it. Coincedence? I think not!  :D  :noid

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2009, 03:09:07 PM »
I suck at this game regardless of the craft I'm in.   Some now even claim "I have an ego."    You cannot win, so I just fly to have fun, like I have for the almost 7 years I've played the game.   

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2009, 03:24:47 PM »
How dare you have fun.

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2009, 08:22:24 PM »
Im suprised the 38J Doesn't have a K/D of liek .05 everyone picks it in any fight its a fat big target.
It might be that noobs dont fly it cause L comes after J on the list. :)
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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2009, 08:35:59 PM »
Im suprised the 38J Doesn't have a K/D of liek .05 everyone picks it in any fight its a fat big target.
It might be that noobs dont fly it cause L comes after J on the list. :)

Look at the P-38J in the Mid-War arena.  You'll see a perfect example of how a 2-3 pilots can really skew a plane's stats.


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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2009, 08:52:39 PM »
Grizz and I totally skewed the 152's stats for (I think) this Feb's LW tour.  The squad had something like 20% of LW's K4 kills too.
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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2009, 10:39:30 AM »
Grizz and I totally skewed the 152's stats for (I think) this Feb's LW tour.  The squad had something like 20% of LW's K4 kills too.
Ya think?  I remember one night a couple of weeks ago when Grizz seemed to be everywhere. Not just everywhere, but higher everywhere. You two clowns have me so spooked when I see a 152 that I just go ahead and hit <Enter.. Enter..> just to save time. :D

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2009, 11:07:45 AM »
:lol  bail!!
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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2009, 11:25:25 AM »
P47s attract my attention. Not because of the "oo free kill" tag. They're some great P47 sticks that will amaze alot of players ( can't recall since i haven't flown in little into a month ). Always pay close attention to those P47s Co Alt or higher, they are the dangerous ones.  :)

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Re: Good airplanes that attract "really good" sticks.
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2009, 10:02:33 PM »
Look at the P-38J in the Mid-War arena.  You'll see a perfect example of how a 2-3 pilots can really skew a plane's stats.


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