Half-wings Spitfire IX landing well (d/l the 98K film)

[gatt]

Have you ripped your wings off in a 600mph dive and high-g (or bloody auto-pilot) pull-out? No problem!   Does the FM (or graphic engine) need a tweak? Probably. Some kites can do it, some others not. No one should do it, of course  

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[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 02-22-2001).]

[Jekyll]

Yeah gatt, its great isn't it?  I did the same thing a couple of weeks ago when my P47 had both half wings removed by a B26.

Flew back to base on the deck at 405 mph (no wep) then settled in for a perfect landing on the runway.

But the FM's OK .... seriously  

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[juzz]

Dweebs! Stop gaming the game!  

[Wilbus]

Did the same thing in the P47 after ack took em off, that thing is actually faster without wings  



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[gatt]

Another thing, with half wing missing, how can the rudder induced roll work so well?  If it is only a graphic bug some things remain weird the same.

Would be nice to hear something from HiTech or PYRO about it.

[Jekyll]

 

Originally posted by Wilbus:
Did the same thing in the P47 after ack took em off, that thing is actually faster without wings  

It's MUCH faster without wings.  405 on the deck for a P47-D30 without WEP is not to be sneezed at  

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[Lephturn]

Guys... remember having "half a wing" is just a simplistic representation of the wing being heavily damaged.

The only issue IMHO, is that there should be some extra drag added from all the damaged and dangling bits so that the planes don't end up faster than they were without damage.

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[Jigster]

 

Originally posted by Lephturn:
Guys... remember having "half a wing" is just a simplistic representation of the wing being heavily damaged.

The only issue IMHO, is that there should be some extra drag added from all the damaged and dangling bits so that the planes don't end up faster than they were without damage.

Leph, IIRC it really isn't a simplistic representation of damage -- it's actual representation of how the flight model works.

There are certain number of lift points modeled per area of the wing (I believe thats how it works, it was suppose to be a big step up from WB that only has 2 or 4 points for the entire wing, I believe AH has @ 16 and allows for complex, yet accurate modeling of how the plane behaves with X amount of wing missing, otherwise, X number of lift points according to damage.) If a wing tip comes off, several points of lift are lost off that section of the wing. The number of points that are lost however, seems to be a dynamic thing. Which explains why you can lose both elevators and still have some control over pitch.

Apparently (and rightly so depending on wing configuration), some planes have the majority of those lifting points on the inner area of the wing, to the point where losing the outter wing sections results in loss of fewer lift points, while some depend a great deal on lift from the outter wing, in corelation with aileron/rudder authority.

Because those lifting points are what helps with flight model accuracy they are probably the points where drag is calculated for speed, AoA, G pull, etc so when the lift points are gone, so are any negative effects.

- Bessy