opinion on liquid cooling

[skullman]

looking at some computers an they have a liquid cool system-looking for some feedback

[Skuzzy]

Personally, I think it is more trouble than it is worth.

[wrag]

Personally, I think it is more trouble than it is worth.

Please elaborate.....

[Ack-Ack]

I wonder what would be Skuzzy's opinion on an oil bath cooling solution. 



ack-ack

[skullman]

my concern is a catastrophe if leak developed-and has anyone dealt with cyberpower online computer store

[eagl]

Please elaborate.....

Seemed pretty self-explanatory to me.

More trouble... = difficult work that might go wrong
...than it's worth = the benefits may not justify the cost (both in dollars and in time) nor the risk of catastrophic equipment loss following any number of failure modes that could be reasonably expected from any water cooling setup regardless of the type or skill of the installer.

Self explanatory.

[Skuzzy]

I thought it was self-explanatory as well, but thank you for detailing it eagl.

[yb11]

have been on water cooling for 6 years no trouble at all. {its over clocked from 2.4 gigs to 2.8}

[TilDeath]

H20 systems.  When cooling a system with liquid you have to keep in mind several factors.  Ambient room temperature, pump flow, single or dual pass rad, water block material, Fan CFM, tubing size, components your will be cooling, single or duel loop, case.  Are you going to ,mild or wild overclock your system?  Stock to mild no reason for H20.

IMHO from experience (70+ H20 system builds) the best H20 is a scratch build, meaning purchase the pump, res, blocks, tubing if your going to be cooling more then one component.  Use compression fittings over clamps.  The "Boxed" everything included systems are OK (not good) for CPU cooling alone.  For cooling an i7 processor the ave water block price is $70 ave price and about $50 for a Dual or Quad core socket 775, a GPU water block is $120... pumps are in the $70 to $90  res are $20 to $50  NB/SB blocks are $20 to $40 voltage reg blocks are $15 to $25 plus the actual fitting depends on the MB another $15 per.  Fittings are about $5 each for compression.  A properly cooled rig using H20 single GPU will be in the $400 to $500 range for a single loop and a dual loop $500 to $600.  I also suggest using Feser tubing and liquid.  Feser tubing's diameter is larger then anything else out there.  Their 1/2 ID has an OD of 3/4 over everything else I found to 1/2 ID and 5/8 OD.  Meaning the Feser tubing is twice as thick.  I prefer their liquid since it is nonconducting, and has an anti fungal ingredient.

Here is an example of a H20 system I did with the parts list http://overclocksource.com/index.php?option=com_agora&task=viewtopic&id=7&Itemid=33

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I use a thermaltake boxed setup for cooling my gaming box. I have also my R4870 in the same circulation with the CPU.

Temperatures stay at around 40c with both CPU and GPU overclocked. The E8500 is currently running at 4,11Ghz and I could probably push it further but it's fast enough as it is.

Actually I'm planning to return everything back to stock speed and reduce fan speed to minimum for a quiet setup as this was my original goal.

[The Fugitive]

my concern is a catastrophe if leak developed-and has anyone dealt with cyberpower online computer store

I know of a couple of peope that have used cyberpower and have been very happy with them.

[TilDeath]

I know of a couple of peope that have used cyberpower and have been very happy with them.

Expensive pricing though if you go off of the stock.  Even the stock boxes are expensive IMHO

[wrag]

I know of a couple of peope that have used cyberpower and have been very happy with them.

Let's see here..........

my Son purchased 2 from those people at CyberPower and both have had equipment failures.

(Why I'm not sure as I can build em myself but....)

One had to be sent back 3 times! 

Both arrived requiring me to open the boxs and hook things up.

Things were lose or disconnected that even in shipping should not have come lose.

BTW talked my son into purchasing a box from TilDeath.......

So far NO PROBLEMS with the system by TilDeath AND got way more computer for a bit less then CyberPower prices!

Been meanin toask you TilDeath you wont get mad at me if I shoot you down every now and then in AH will you    (wait! NwBie made me do that!)

[eagl]

I thought it was self-explanatory as well, but thank you for detailing it eagl.

You're welcome.

Of course, now you have to ban yourself and me for threadcrapping, since we basically crapped on the original poster and one other respondent without really adding anything to the discussion

And if you respond to this, we're both guilty of hijacking too.  Yea I get back-seat moderation thrown in for good measure, but I am counting on getting some time off for good behavior 

[_vic_]

Liquid cooling can be important if you plan to overclock your hardware. By running your CPU/GPU at a higher frequency than the manufacturer expected you introduce a lot more heat (improperly dissipated power) Unless you plan to push your machine to the limits like that, it's really not necessary.

Personally, I'm quite happy with my Antec 900 case: http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjM=

The case is designed a little different - with the power supply unit at the bottom, and a huge ~8" ventilation fan on the top of the case right next to the CPU. Before I switched to this case I would get occasional blue screen of death during a long gaming session. I bought this case because I just wanted a nice case (had a cheap knockoff computer that I bought for $500 and then expanded on) and those problems went away.

Just my 2c.

Tim