OPERATION: Jubilee, April FSO

[Hamltnblue]

Hmmm, I usually see the objectives. Didn't this time

[Baumer]

I had a technical issue with the email utility this weekend. So to not waste any time, I sent the objectives directly to the CiC's on Saturday.

Now that the issue has been addressed, I have just sent the objectives to everyone.

Thanks,
Baumer

[forHIM]

Technical difficulty == forHIM hid the keys to the FSO Admin CM closet.   

Sorry about any delay due to that.  It's good to have new roles for CMs, but at times it adds a few delays.

[Anaxogoras]

Well, that was quick!   SpitV vs 190 anyone?

[oakranger]

Well, that was quick!   SpitV vs 190 anyone?

dont feel to bad, i had about 20 190's on my six.  No way of winning that match.

[BnZs]

Fun event, beautiful sky.

I have not seen the results yet, but I believe they will show that the Hurricanes proved more dangerous than most gave them credit for. As I predicted.

May I ask, what is the purpose of enabling formations when the number of individuals in buffs are high enough that they could stack and mutually support each other without drones? Fast buffs+escort+linked guns seems like overkill. Such might be a necessary evil for the "lone wolf" buffers in the MA, but in FSO, which is all about teamwork, it seems a bit much.

[Qrsu]

Fun event, beautiful sky.

I have not seen the results yet, but I believe they will show that the Hurricanes proved more dangerous than most gave them credit for. As I predicted.

May I ask, what is the purpose of enabling formations when the number of individuals in buffs are high enough that they could stack and mutually support each other without drones? Fast buffs+escort+linked guns seems like overkill. Such might be a necessary evil for the "lone wolf" buffers in the MA, but in FSO, which is all about teamwork, it seems a bit much.

You must be new. 

EDIT: What I mean is... mass bomber formations are pretty normal. You think the 1000 bomber formations over Berlin late in the war was overkill? Or necessary? Just remember, a lot of guys in those bombers don't fly them often and can really have a hard time defending themselves WHILE trying to concentrate on hitting their target. I know that I've had bad experiences flying bombers in the FSO simply because I never bother to fly them in the MA. The formations add to the immersion effect and also give the newbies a chance. 

[BnZs]

You must be new. 

EDIT: What I mean is... mass bomber formations are pretty normal. You think the 1000 bomber formations over Berlin late in the war was overkill? Or necessary? Just remember, a lot of guys in those bombers don't fly them often and can really have a hard time defending themselves WHILE trying to concentrate on hitting their target. I know that I've had bad experiences flying bombers in the FSO simply because I never bother to fly them in the MA. The formations add to the immersion effect and also give the newbies a chance. 

First two FSO kills were a 190A5 and a 110G taken in a HurriIIC, back when Tunisia was still literally the "Green Hills of Africa".  Must be two years back or so. Like I say, I knew not to underestimate that bird....

What I mean was, it struck me there were sufficient individuals in bombers to form a good stack without the drones, which I think tilt things entirely too far against the interceptor. If being able to fly a tight formation becomes that much more important for buff survival, so much the better. I thought the point of FSO was to *not* do all of the things the MA does to make things "easier".

EDIT: It has struck me long before this, I just haven't given voice to it before.

[Saxman]

Nothing unusual about that at all.

[Odee]

Still nothing posted.

IMO, BnZs is fulla BeaNs 

Had 4 190's on my SpitV at 15k...  Then a fresh batch of 190's on TheMaj and I on the deck.   

Pretty much the we (16 of us) were out numbered at the start by 3 to one.  Then came the buffs and 109s...  For all I know we may well have ran into the entirety of the LW air force, but I gotta ask, just what was this big discrepancy about Allies having superior numbered what of superior planes?

[Anaxogoras]

I'm with BnZs on this one.  I hate the bomber drones because they warp.  It was so awesome watching all those ju88s dive bomb with drones in tow.

[PFactorDave]

I think the bomber drones are fair, considering that a real bomber would be manned by an entire crew instead of just one guy.  Then add the manual calibration rule...  Seems like a pretty big work load for one person.

Turning the drones off would really tip the balance dramatically in favour of the interceptors.

In my opinion.

[BnZs]

Turning the drones off would really tip the balance dramatically in favour of the interceptors.

Historically things *were* dramatically in favor of the interceptors once the bombers went beyond the range of their escorts. The reasoning behind the drones in the MA is apparently the fact that every player operates semi-autonomously most of the time, therefore the buffer needs a bit of an aid. Such is not the case in FSO, where there are enough players to form a box for mutual protection *and* dedicated escorts.

[Baumer]

BnZ,
I understand you concern, however, after reviewing the logs for scoring I have found the following data.

Total kills awarded to allies- 110
Kills awarded to B-25C, Boston Mk III, and Observer-Gunner- 12
Assists awarded to B-25C, Boston Mk III, and Observer-Gunner- 19

So while I appreciate your concern, it would appear to not really have had much of an impact on this frame.

[Anaxogoras]

What about the warps?