dornier 335

[SOLAS]

its time to be a part of the --bring this plane to aces high-- army. i want the do 335 in it. very erotic plane. so please superfly and who ever , make this wish come true. thank you.and dont forget white flight overalls for the pilot.
 
 

[Dux]

Ditto!

[Effdub]

hmmm, Fw-190 drivers are forced to fly in leather panties, spit-lovers are required to fly naked... if we have to wear butt-ugly white overalls to fly the Do 335... so be it!  

Effdub

where do I sign up for the PDA (pro Do 335 Army)?

[Wilbus]

The times I have read about the DO335 in my nice book and other books, are uncountable, after the 190 it's about the most brutal looking plane of the war, no to speak of its different armemnts and loadouts, speed and manuverabilty.

It saw service with LW squads, did it ever see action?

[Effdub]

From www.aeroflight.co.uk/profile/d335hist.htm

"When the US Army overran the Oberpfaffenhofen factory in late April 1945, only 11 Do 335A-1 single seat fighter-bombers and two Do 335A-12 conversion trainers had been completed. A further nine A-1's, four A-4's and two A- 12's were in final assembly, and components and assemblies for nearly 70 more had been completed. Heinkel at Vienna had been unable to build any Do 335A-6 night fighters."

"Technically innovative, heavily armed and possessing a performance which no other piston-engined aircraft has ever achieved or surpassed, the Do 335 possessed great potential as a combat aircraft, but never got the chance to prove itself. Delayed by high ranking indecision and Allied bombing raids, it simply ran out of time."

Effdub

[R4M]

Originally posted by Wilbus:


It saw service with LW squads, did it ever see action?

Some of them were spotted by american planes during the last days of the war. The plane was into production, and you could say that even in service.

But it didnt see any combat AFAIK. Another What-if '46 scenario plane I dont want to see in AH. Model planes wich saw combat, not the ones wich were there just taking a look.

[Westy MOL]

"possessing a performance which no other piston-engined aircraft has ever achieved or surpassed, "

<cough> baloney. That's simply the author of that statments opinion and a reflection of his infatuation with that aircraft.
 The performance was surpassed by many prop planes in service before WWII ended in Europe as well as in the Pacific.

 Even though it did not shoot anything down, did not see combat it is a plane I would like to see added someday. Right alongside the P-47M, the P-51H and the Spit XXI(?)

  Westy

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]

[GRUNHERZ]

Which other combat loaded and armed prop plane did 480mph at 21,000feet?

Basically what was speed of P51H or P47M at that alt.

[Toad]

Grunherz,

Remember that other thread where we talked about the Do-335?

 

[Westy MOL]

The Do-335 was faster at that specific alt for sure. And impressivley fast. Specifically the DO-335 had a maximum speed of 417 mph sustained at 21k but only was able to hit 477 mph with emergency boost. The torque from the two engines being boosted to drive the planes from 417 to 477 would be something else I'd imagine.  

 As a bomber interceptor, a fast attack bomber or "combat aircraft" ( it was not labelled a fighter by the RLM) it would be real nice. I'm not sure it would survive much use as a fighter as the test pilots reportyed snaking an porpoising at high speeds. So it's high speed could help it get away in a "flight not fight" act of self preservation. However the P-47m and P-51H were "fighters" and could easily jump from 25k or 30k to catch a D0335 even on boost at 21k.


The P-51H:

444mph @ 5k
463mph @ 15k
487mph @ 25k


The P-47M:

400mph @ 10k
453mph @ 25k
470mph @ 30k

Side note: Check this out! http://www.best.com/~ghethco/do335/aug18-98.html

Real nice movies of a guy with his remote control DO-335 model.  

   Westy

[Tony Williams]

When it comes to twin-engined prop fighters, I reckon you can't beat the de Havilland Hornet, designed as a long-range carrier plane. It even looked gorgeous (until they turned it into a night fighter with an extra cockpit and a radar pimple on its nose) but was just too late to see action in the Pacific.  It stayed in service for a long time after the war.

Tony Williams
Author: "Rapid Fire: The development of automatic cannon, heavy machine guns and their ammunition for armies, navies and air forces"
Details on my military gun and ammunition website: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~autogun/index.htm

[GRUNHERZ]

Im not sure what you mean Toad. Anyway it doesnt matter as I hope its never in AH, even if its an intersting plane in a bizzare sort of way.

Westy are those speeds on 51H and 47M on WEP?

[Westy MOL]

"Westy are those speeds on 51H and 47M on WEP?"

I'm trying to find out. That registered with me too  

Westy

[Effdub]

hmmm, The P-51H, like the Do 335, saw no combat in WWII.

Westy when you say: "The performance was surpassed by many prop planes in service before WWII ended in Europe as well as in the Pacific.", which ones would those be?

Effdub

[Toad]

Grunherz:

From: http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=002316


Grunherz: "So no Toad you dont have a clever point here unless somebody here was asking for something entirely innapropriate like a Do335."

Well, here they are. Told you they were around.