Ta-154

[nonoht]

look at this beauty !!

type Chasseur biplace de nuit
motorisation  2 Junker Jumo 213 de 1.750 cv
vitesse  maximale 650 km/h
plafond pratique  10.900 m
rayon d'action  1.850 km
masse à vide  6.405 kg
masse max. au décollage  9.548 kg
envergure  16 m
longueur  12.56 m (avec les antennes du radar)
hauteur  4,47 m
armement  2 MK 108 de 30 mm et 2 MG 151 de 20 mm sur les flans du fuselage

     


now we have night , so we need night fighter



[This message has been edited by nonoht (edited 06-26-2000).]

[Skywalker]

Isn't that the German mosquito attempt? From what I've read, a very capable aircraft, it just came too late in the war.

[nonoht]

it wasn't too late....
he flew in jully 1943 for the first time...

it would be col to see this MOSKITO flying in AH

[Westy]

The Elmers used to hold it together, didn't.

-Westy

(I'ld love to see that in AH too)

[-lynx-]

As far as I remember we are getting the best nightfighter LW had - Ju88. Surely it won't take much to convert a bomber variant into a nightfighter.



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-lynx-
13 Sqn RAF

[nonoht]

 

Originally posted by -lynx-:
Surely it won't take much to convert a bomber variant into a nightfighter.

humm ???  and how do you convert it ??  hex edit or what...

if we have ju88 bomber variant (glasses nose)  it will be impossible to use it as night fighter.

[-lynx-]

I meant that the model would already be there - the most difficult part as I understand. The rest is cosmetic changes - hard nose, diff armaments etc.

I cant see the whole concept working though - sure, we have night and all that but the  icons announce your presence, altitude/attitude (to some extent at least) for miles...

p.s. nonoht "first flew in XXXX" means not a lot - from that point of view Tempest V is a 1943 plane .

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-lynx-
13 Sqn RAF

[nonoht]

that right...
don't beat me master !!
  hehehe

i'll check info for this

[funked]

Sorry, prototype only.

[Staga]

 

Originally posted by funked:
Sorry, prototype only.

I can live with that if she got her armament installed  

[Azrael]

Let's see (V designation is prototype):

Ta 154 V-1, V-2: Equipped with Jumo 211 R engines.

Ta 154 V-3: (First flight 11/25/43): First armed prototype, 2x MK108 and 2x MG 151/20, Jumo 213 engines, Lichtenstein C.1 radar

V-4 to V-7, beginning of 44, used to test armament and radar equipment.

V-8 to V-15: pre-serial production of Ta 154 A, equipped with Lichtenstein SN-2 radar.

V-1, V-3, V-4, V-5, V-9, V-12 lost due to weak undercarriage.

10 examples of the Ta 154 A-1 were built (after the production had been delayed because the cement used in the production corroded the all-wooden structure). 8 Ta 154 A-1 were delivered to the LW, without the Lichtenstein SN-2. Production was stopped then.

Next project was the Ta 154 C, to be equipped with Jumo 213A engines (2x1750 PS), Ta 154 C-1 as night fighter, Ta 154 C-2 as day fighter, but after the production of the A-1 stopped none were built.

Ta 154 C-1: Night fighter, equipped with ejector seat for the pilot. Armament 4x Mk108 in the nose, 2x Mk108 upward firing in 'Schräge Musik' configuration.

Ta 154 C-2: Day fighter, 6x Mk108 in the nose.

Az

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381st BG (H)
"Triumphant we fly"

[funked]

Thanks Az.

Wolfgang Wagner (author of "Kurt Tank:  Focke-Wulf's Designer and Test Pilot") says only 8 A-1 were completed.  Of these he says two were crashed before delivery to the Luftwaffe.  After evaluation by a night-fighter wing at Stade, the remaining six were modified for use as ramming aircraft against Allied heavy bombers.

I'd prefer to see a Ju 88 night-fighter variant.  These saw combat in signficant numbers, some of the later models had very impressive performance, and the existence of a Ju 88 bomber model makes life easier for HTC.

[nonoht]

in fact night fighter or bomber configuration will flyable only if the darkness stay at last 30mins

[Pongo]

I would prefer the DH mosquito or P61.
both would work well against Lancs..

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[wells]

The allies bombed the glue factory and the substitute glue didn't work.  I think there were 3 crashes when the program was cancelled.  Apparently 24 planes were built and some were used as Me-262 trainers.