Author Topic: Typhoon v Jug (Read 920 times)

ra · « **on:** June 26, 2000, 11:44:00 AM »

Can anyone think of an aerodynamic explanation for the huge difference in E-retention between these 2 planes?

ra

Citabria · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:13:00 PM »

its da wings

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:19:00 PM »

Yup. What he said.

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-Karnak

ra · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:24:00 PM »

More detail please.

Citabria · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:28:00 PM »

tempest is a typhoon w p-51 type laminar flow wings
and it turned the typhoon into a great fighter

lift makes drag and drag is bad for e and the amount of drag created by lift (induced drag) affects this.

theres more to it than that but thats the general idea

Westy · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:37:00 PM »

P-47 wing is eliptical also. Which helps in the roll department.

-Westy

ra · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:42:00 PM »

I understand that lift creates drag, but the Typhoon doesn't handle in a way which exhibits a lot of lift. It hauls about the same load as a F4U, but doesn't turn as tight OR retain energy as well. It seems to have the worst of both worlds, poor turn and poor E retention. The P-47 and Hog at least have good E-retention, even without laminar flow.

I know that airfoils have a huge influence on an aircraft's performance, maybe Hawker picked an incredibly bad airfoil.

ra

Vermillion · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2000, 12:53:00 PM »

The Typhoon had a wing very similar in design to the Hurricane, ie thick., which is why it retains E very poorly.

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jmccaul · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2000, 01:41:00 PM »

Also i believe the jug and tempest's wings are somewhat eliptical which apparently helps e-retension (why is that?, put of curiosity)

-duma- · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2000, 02:12:00 PM »

In RL the wings of the Typhoon were STRONG. That's about all they had going for them

One thing that's not modelled is the buffeting the Typhoon suffered with 1000lb bombs at medium -> high speeds.. I'm not too bothered about that

wells · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2000, 11:06:00 PM »

Mostly, it just comes down to the Jug being heavier. A heavier plane doesn't slow down as quickly. There's some 3000 lbs difference between those 2 planes in fighter configuration.

funked · « **Reply #11 on:** June 27, 2000, 07:48:00 AM »

Typhoon has the biggest prop of any plane in the game. I'm pretty sure this causes the need for a lot of trim at low speeds, and a lot of drag from high slip angles if you aren't trimming carefully.

Author Topic: Typhoon v Jug (Read 920 times)

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