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Offline Serenity

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2009, 11:48:24 PM »
It was scrapped in Kingman , Arizona . They still have a huge , super long runway from which bomber crews trained . it is about 100 miles southeast of Las Vegas , Nevada . Lots of history all around there .
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Knew it had the word "King" in it, lol.

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2009, 07:13:57 AM »
:furious I didn't think such a thing as a bad WW2 airshow existed, today I went to one..

lets see we had a B17, a B24, a SBD, and a goon..  thats it..

and worse yet, on the flyer/program it listed the B24 as a B25  :uhoh 

oh yea, and it was all static display.. not one plane in the air, not one engine start up..

I put off going out of town for this. :cry

what are you 10 years old or just spoiled rotten? or both..........
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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 11:14:34 AM »
If... you're ever in the area - http://www.airclassicsmuseum.org/index.html

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 12:17:13 PM »
what are you 10 years old or just spoiled rotten? or both..........

Well when you hear about an AIR show you expect something to take place in the air...    the planes were not museum pieces, we arent talking about davinci's helicopter or the Wright Flyer.. .. they flew to get here.. but then for the actual "show" they just sit.. done even fire up the engines.. not one even one of them??

yes it was nice to see them up close and all, but an AIR show featuring airworthy aircraft that is 100% static display is kinda dumb.

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 12:20:06 PM »
Well when you hear about an AIR show you expect something to take place in the air...    the planes were not museum pieces, we arent talking about davinci's helicopter or the Wright Flyer.. .. they flew to get here.. but then for the actual "show" they just sit.. done even fire up the engines.. not one even one of them??

yes it was nice to see them up close and all, but an AIR show featuring airworthy aircraft that is 100% static display is kinda dumb.

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2009, 12:31:35 PM »
You do realize you proved Eagler correct right?

I could give less of a damn about who thinks what or who wants to stroke each others ego regarding the matter. :aok

Really high and mighty of someone to say someone its childish because someone went to an AIRSHOW only to find out there would be no flying of any kind involved..   Anyone would no matter how "mature" would be let down by such a suprise, and anyone who says they wouldn't is full of crap,  but I guess it wouldn't be an official AH thread if someone didn't try to play the "im better than you" game at some point.
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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2009, 12:32:22 PM »
Well when you hear about an AIR show you expect something to take place in the air...    the planes were not museum pieces, we arent talking about davinci's helicopter or the Wright Flyer.. .. they flew to get here.. but then for the actual "show" they just sit.. done even fire up the engines.. not one even one of them??

yes it was nice to see them up close and all, but an AIR show featuring airworthy aircraft that is 100% static display is kinda dumb.

You really have no idea what goes into these events, do you?

Your admission was $5.  What do you expect for five dollars?  You don't have any idea about the apperance fees for the airplanes, lodging for the pilots, support staffers, etc.  Liability insurance.  Concessions.

The organizers for this airshow would have worked their collective tulips off to bring these airplanes together so you could spend five bucks being entertained for an afternoon admiring a great collection of flyable airplanes.

For $450 you could have gone for a ride in the B-24.  A very quick google search shows a B-52 flyby as well.


In fact it appears the airshow went exactly as advertised according to this April 1 press release:

Wings over the Crossroads

Published:
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:22 AM CDT
Victoria Regional Airport is hosting the “Wings over the Crossroads” fly-in on Saturday and Sunday, April 4 and 5 from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. The airport will host planes from all over. Admission is $5 and children under six get in free.

“This is the largest assemblies of airplanes in this area,” said airport manager Larry Blackwell.

The fly-in will feature the newest Navy helicopter, rare aircraft and antique cars. There will be food and fun for people of all ages. Special kids’ activities and clowns doing face painting will be included in the entertainment. Many of the aircraft will have ladders so that patrons can view the cockpits. Visitors will in some cases be able to sit in or tour planes.

Blackwell says that the bombers are a big draw for the crowds and that kids especially like the fighter jets. On Saturday only, there will be a B-52 fly over. There will be an F-5 Aggressor like the ones used in the movie Top Gun.  Other featured planes include the T-6 Texan, C-47 Gooney, WWII US Navy SB2C, B-17 Flying Fortress and many more.

Area community organizations including the Navy and Army National Guard will have booths.

    “We hope the community has an outstanding time,” Blackwell said.

    Tours and rides will be available for an additional fee. More information may be obtained by contacting Bettye Pribly at 361-573-9402.



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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2009, 12:36:39 PM »
You really have no idea what goes into these events, do you?

Your admission was $5.  What do you expect for five dollars?  You don't have any idea about the apperance fees for the airplanes, lodging for the pilots, support staffers, etc.  Liability insurance.  Concessions.

The organizers for this airshow would have worked their collective tulips off to bring these airplanes together so you could spend five bucks being entertained for an afternoon admiring a great collection of flyable airplanes.

For $450 you could have gone for a ride in the B-24.  A very quick google search shows a B-52 flyby as well.


In fact it appears the airshow went exactly as advertised according to this April 1 press release:

Wings over the Crossroads

Published:
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:22 AM CDT
Victoria Regional Airport is hosting the “Wings over the Crossroads” fly-in on Saturday and Sunday, April 4 and 5 from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. The airport will host planes from all over. Admission is $5 and children under six get in free.

“This is the largest assemblies of airplanes in this area,” said airport manager Larry Blackwell.

The fly-in will feature the newest Navy helicopter, rare aircraft and antique cars. There will be food and fun for people of all ages. Special kids’ activities and clowns doing face painting will be included in the entertainment. Many of the aircraft will have ladders so that patrons can view the cockpits. Visitors will in some cases be able to sit in or tour planes.

Blackwell says that the bombers are a big draw for the crowds and that kids especially like the fighter jets. On Saturday only, there will be a B-52 fly over. There will be an F-5 Aggressor like the ones used in the movie Top Gun.  Other featured planes include the T-6 Texan, C-47 Gooney, WWII US Navy SB2C, B-17 Flying Fortress and many more.

Area community organizations including the Navy and Army National Guard will have booths.

    “We hope the community has an outstanding time,” Blackwell said.

    Tours and rides will be available for an additional fee. More information may be obtained by contacting Bettye Pribly at 361-573-9402.



yeppers, other than the B52 flyover saturday... there was nothing else.  of course the advert didnt mention that there would be nothing flying (except for a single pass of a 52 on sat) I guess they fdigured people would assume that an air show means nothing flys... i mean its common sense, no need to mention that. :uhoh

but geez, your right, I guess if I wanted to see something fly I should have paid them the $450 huh? :lol

and I didnt set the price, they did..  if $5 per person (plus all the crap they were selling at absurd prices) wasnt enough to warrant making the airplanes fly at least once.. well that really wasnt very well throught out was it.
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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2009, 12:41:22 PM »
yeppers, other than the B52 flyover saturday... there was nothing else.

but geez, your right, I guess if I wanted to see something fly I should have paid them the $450 huh? :lol

And you feel your $5 was misspent?  Do you feel they misrepresented themselves to swindle you out of five bucks?

I would give you a ride in a number of airplanes with round engines gratis if I knew you'd appreciate it.  It's pretty clear that you wouldn't.

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2009, 12:51:37 PM »
And you feel your $5 was misspent?  Do you feel they misrepresented themselves to swindle you out of five bucks?

I would give you a ride in a number of airplanes with round engines gratis if I knew you'd appreciate it.  It's pretty clear that you wouldn't.

I dont feel ripped off, just that it was a wast of time and yes, it was fairly misrepresented..    When you see "THIS WEEKEND! AIRSHOW!!!"  do you immediatly expect nothing to be flying, or even moving?  no, you expect.. yes.. an AIR SHOW.


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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2009, 12:59:08 PM »
After reading the press release, just wondering if you would have qualified for the free admission :)
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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2009, 12:59:13 PM »
What is your position on museums?

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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 01:01:04 PM »
I dont feel ripped off, just that it was a wast of time and yes, it was fairly misrepresented..    When you see "THIS WEEKEND! AIRSHOW!!!"  do you immediatly expect nothing to be flying, or even moving?  no, you expect.. yes.. an AIR SHOW.



Without getting into semantics all of the advertising materials I've found for the Wings over the Crossroads in Victoria this past weekend had an accurate representation of what to expect.  From the press release listed above to some promotional videos about the event.

I'm amazed that you'd go to an event like this, be entertained for a few hours for five bucks and then come post your complaint here.  You're complaining about a years worth of hard work by the event planners and I'm sure they'd be happy to hear how disappointed you were in their effort.

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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2009, 01:03:05 PM »
I could give less of a damn about who thinks what or who wants to stroke each others ego regarding the matter. :aok

Really high and mighty of someone to say someone its childish because someone went to an AIRSHOW only to find out there would be no flying of any kind involved..   Anyone would no matter how "mature" would be let down by such a suprise, and anyone who says they wouldn't is full of crap,  but I guess it wouldn't be an official AH thread if someone didn't try to play the "im better than you" game at some point.

You're selfish Wingnutt.  You also lack appreciation, so here's an idea.   Next year don't go to that show again.   Folks put a lot of time into that show.   
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Re: worst WW2 airshow.. EVAR
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2009, 01:58:12 PM »
One also has to consider to fly these warbirds cost anywhere between 2,000- 5,000 dollars per hour.

Consider the cost to fly them to that show.
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