DA is a problem

[Banshee7]

old DA map, anyone?

[SPKmes]

I look at the DA as a training arena with consequences. Consequence being you take damage and get sent to the tower. Each area has it's specific theme. Furball area = anything goes and if you don't feel it is the same as in the MA just visit TT when it's busy. the three way is pretty much as it is. And each corresponding area has the same purpose.
 Yes it can get annoying when somebody comes along to a private duel, but from my experience people are pretty obliging and if not you and your duels partner both go to opposing sides and nail the sucker till he/she gets the message. This can then double as wingman training.
 Perhaps on the specific duelling bases there could be an option to lock it for the purpose of an uninterrupted duel where people can be invited in with and time limit or even a unlock of said area for inactivity from at least two bases on that particular duels area. I say at least two due to the fact that the canyon areas have three bases on.

On a whole I believe that it is the community elders who need to help the new guys wether it be in the DA or MA. Everybody has the ability to PM and these don't have to be and shouldn't be for abuse (only), give direction to some of these guys you are so vehemently accusing of degrading this game. I know of the few times I have, I have noticed that although there is no reply the actions or direction offered has been followed. Even to the point of facing off with a HO'er guns cold for a couple of passes and replying on the third, I notice that some (yes there are those who don't) will learn or at least the next time we meet aren't continuing in this fashion.  

Just my thoughts on the matter

[mechanic]

Do you all really want to end the fun that a large group of people have in the lake? Take away the lake and 100 people are going to be unhappy, or more. Whats the big deal. There is no problem if we just tolerate what we have got.

[grizz441]

Nah the lake is fine but i don't know why it's associated with the dueling arena.  Nothing that takes place there which encompasses 95+% of the action in the dueling arena, can be considered anything warranting a duel or an honorable fight.  Imo, Furball Lake should have its own arena.  And then the dueling arena could be a similar setup to Roscoroo's Sea2 events + areas for 1v1s.  Log in and you get an arena message that tells you the ground rules.  Regulars in the arena would be given CM status and griefers that break rules would be ejected.

[The Fugitive]

Do you all really want to end the fun that a large group of people have in the lake? Take away the lake and 100 people are going to be unhappy, or more. Whats the big deal. There is no problem if we just tolerate what we have got.

Like I said in the beginning of the post, its my fault for thinking I'd find "fights" in the DA, but Im not saying to get rid of it. I couldn't care less what happens there. The issue I saw was new guys thinking that flying ..... running, HOin, and picking.... like that is the BEST way to learn to fight. I was just suggesting that maybe there was something that could be done to keep the new guys occupied, and trained a bit better, so that when they go in to the DA and run into the trash thats in there they know that they are running in to trash.

[moot]

Do you all really want to end the fun that a large group of people have in the lake?

Improve it to above-mediocre standards. Show me a player whose dogfighting toolbox is the kind of 1 dimensional routine Fugitive describes and I'll show you a player who's marooned on a tiny tip of the "fun" iceberg.

Take away the lake and 100 people are going to be unhappy, or more.

No one's arguing to take the lake away, or remove furballing from the game.  Nowhere near it.

Whats the big deal. There is no problem if we just tolerate what we have got.

Wow.  Just F****in wow. 

[kilz]

this is on the right path of getting LOCKED IN

[Shuffler]

Negative thread, recurring topic.   

If the DA is so bad, why is it that the current population of the DA is constantly at its highest of anytime in the last 6 years?

Gee, 60+ players in the DA to go play with most nights (compared to the maximum of 30+ ever before, even with killshooter off) and people are still complaining?

Get stuck in there, and stop dipping your toes in then spouting here how bad it is. All you are doing is highlighting how poorly equiped you are for full on furballing.

Because they closed H2H.

[Banshee7]

Do you all really want to end the fun that a large group of people have in the lake? Take away the lake and 100 people are going to be unhappy, or more. Whats the big deal. There is no problem if we just tolerate what we have got.

So what...thats 100 people compared to how many other people pay to play this game 

[DamnedRen]

So what...thats 100 people compared to how many other people pay to play this game 

Wrong!!! If you were one of those 100, who by way, are not complaining about the MA being a hole of inequity that was being told a few from the forum boards "who cares about 100 peeps?" wouldn't you feel just great about a community that you are a paying and contributing member of. That's like saying what's one person, Banshee7 compared to 3 others that play the game? Or 100 others, or 1 other? Let's just get rid of him because he doesn't want to play our way?

This appears to be a case of the few caring about the few and wanting to tell them how to play the game.

I'll bet that if you want to put up the money for each and every one of those "100?" players then maybe, just maybe, they'll play by your rules. Right now the game sets the rules and no one seems to have stepped in to curb the play in the DA. If or until that happens what you see is what you get.

Ren

[Shuffler]

The DA can be a plus if all those types stay in there. I think they should rename it though. Something like FFA (no rules). Might even pull more of those types out of the main arenas. Then set it up with no squads and killshooter off. Let them have at it. Then they can setup a Dueling Arena where folks can actually duel with no squads and killshooter off.

I don't think anyone would be unhappy with that setup.

[CAP1]

YAKNOW......

my last answer was somehwat sarcastic, although it would fix the "problem" in there.

the fact, though is that you don't need to go in there if you don;t like the way things are in there. those of you that practice in there, can do so in the ma's, or in the ta. for 1-1 duels, simply go to the far side of the map. there's generally bases close enough together to be short flight time to your duel.

 those practicing bombing raids, same thing. if someone ups, then they're actually HELPING your practice, as they'll simply be making it more realistic. if you're a lw flyer, and afraid of hurting your score there, then go to mw or ew to practice. if you're a mw or ew flyer, then go to one of the lw arenas.
 there's also the sea arenas, which i'm sure can be used to practice.

not trying to be a wisearse, just sayin.........

[waystin2]

YAKNOW......

my last answer was somehwat sarcastic, although it would fix the "problem" in there.

the fact, though is that you don't need to go in there if you don;t like the way things are in there. those of you that practice in there, can do so in the ma's, or in the ta. for 1-1 duels, simply go to the far side of the map. there's generally bases close enough together to be short flight time to your duel.

 those practicing bombing raids, same thing. if someone ups, then they're actually HELPING your practice, as they'll simply be making it more realistic. if you're a lw flyer, and afraid of hurting your score there, then go to mw or ew to practice. if you're a mw or ew flyer, then go to one of the lw arenas.
 there's also the sea arenas, which i'm sure can be used to practice.

not trying to be a wisearse, just sayin.........

Howdy Cap,

Long time, no hear!  Common sense will get you nowhere sir!


Have a great day,

Way

[mechanic]

Ren, great answer sir.
S!

[mechanic]

  Just F****in wow. 

 

Rephrase for mootikins.

There is no problem for the regulars like me who still always enjoy my DA time, everytime.