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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2009, 10:09:46 PM »
They are taking money from A and spending it on B, C, and D.  I see no decrease in money.
Yeah, thats basically what I was stating, there just cutting spending in some areas, while increasing it in others.
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2009, 01:01:49 AM »
Actually I am watching Gates on C Span now going over his plans.
So far everything he is doing and why seems to make sense to me.

Cutting the F22 makes sense at the moment (We already have 188 of em we arent really putting to much use)
Upping the spending on wounded vets rehabilitation is WAY over due
Upping the recruitment and training of Helicopter pilots and maintanence crews.
Upping production of predator drones by 60%
Building at least 3 new navy destroyers

To name just a few.
Gotta admit I was sceptical at best but.
All in all I approve

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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 01:37:54 AM »
Oh yeah, I definitely think what Gates is doing is a good thing, like you said, as far as the Raptor goes we really don't have too much use from them atm, there aren't any other nations with generation 5 fighters, and I doubt there will be anytime soon.  Right now what we need most are things that are gonna help in the fight against insurgence, like unmanned drones like the Predators.
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 01:43:01 AM »
Actually I am watching Gates on C Span now going over his plans.
So far everything he is doing and why seems to make sense to me.

Cutting the F22 makes sense at the moment (We already have 188 of em we arent really putting to much use)
Upping the spending on wounded vets rehabilitation is WAY over due
Upping the recruitment and training of Helicopter pilots and maintanence crews.
Upping production of predator drones by 60%
Building at least 3 new navy destroyers

To name just a few.
Gotta admit I was sceptical at best but.
All in all I approve

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I was agreeing. Until I hit that line. And from there, my support spirals down.

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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 02:36:45 AM »
I was agreeing. Until I hit that line. And from there, my support spirals down.
Whats wrong with building more Predator drones?
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2009, 02:48:25 AM »
Whats wrong with building more Predator drones?

That depends. From a budget perspective, nothing. From a prospective-fighterpilot perspective, everything! More predators means fewer manned aircraft, means fewer pilot slots, means tougher competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-kNPKNCtg

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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2009, 04:04:42 AM »
That depends. From a budget perspective, nothing. From a prospective-fighterpilot perspective, everything! More predators means fewer manned aircraft, means fewer pilot slots, means tougher competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-kNPKNCtg
Yeah but it also puts fewer pilots lives in danger, I know that all fighter pilots would rather have themselves in the air then an unmanned drone, but the fact is unmanned drones can stay in the air longer, cost much less then the cost of training those pilots & the jets they fly, and again put fewer American lives on the line. 

I still think that there is & will always be a need for the manned fighter jets, but the unmanned drone is also a valuable asset to have.
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2009, 04:34:02 AM »
Yeah but it also puts fewer pilots lives in danger, I know that all fighter pilots would rather have themselves in the air then an unmanned drone, but the fact is unmanned drones can stay in the air longer, cost much less then the cost of training those pilots & the jets they fly, and again put fewer American lives on the line. 

I still think that there is & will always be a need for the manned fighter jets, but the unmanned drone is also a valuable asset to have.

Which is why I say, from a government standpoint, more predators is GREAT! But from a fighter pilot's perspective, it could be the end of the world!

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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2009, 07:08:42 AM »
the F-22 raptor is like the i7
the F-35 is like the E8400

notice everyone here is suggested into getting the E8400..
something along those lines...

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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2009, 07:22:25 AM »
Which is why I say, from a government standpoint, more predators is GREAT! But from a fighter pilot's perspective, it could be the end of the world!

So.......

I guess all the hot shots are going to find a need to train harder, study more, and fly better.  I see nothing wrong with tough competition.  It weeds out all non-hackers.

Besides, why do you think this game is so popular?  You know that it is a government conspiracy to train us all to be Predator operators.     :noid 
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2009, 08:12:42 AM »
Besides, why do you think this game is so popular?  You know that it is a government conspiracy to train us all to be Predator operators.     :noid 
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2009, 08:56:29 AM »
Which is why I say, from a government standpoint, more predators is GREAT! But from a fighter pilot's perspective, it could be the end of the world!

Naaa. It only means that in the future. you may be able to serve your country from the comfort of your own living room.
Think of it as a combination of of playing AH. And flying RC model aircraft.

Your only real fear is that the government will hire 13 year old squeekers who are better then you LOL
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 08:59:23 AM »
Naaa. It only means that in the future. you may be able to serve your country from the comfort of your own living room.
Think of it as a combination of of playing AH. And flying RC model aircraft.

Your only real fear is that the government will hire 13 year old squeekers who are better then you LOL
Yeah, they'll covertly look for the best fighter pilots on XBox live and recruit them. :rofl
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2009, 09:12:23 AM »
Actually I am watching Gates on C Span now going over his plans.
So far everything he is doing and why seems to make sense to me.

Cutting the F22 makes sense at the moment (We already have 188 of em we arent really putting to much use)
Upping the spending on wounded vets rehabilitation is WAY over due
Upping the recruitment and training of Helicopter pilots and maintanence crews.
Upping production of predator drones by 60%
Building at least 3 new navy destroyers

To name just a few.
Gotta admit I was sceptical at best but.
All in all I approve

BTW

Im officially IN
This topic can only go in one direction LOL

Well put.

Skuzzy's going to lock this thread.
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Re: New Defense Budget Cuts
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2009, 09:32:58 AM »
Well put.

Skuzzy's going to lock this thread.
Why, we can't talk about a defense budget on here?
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