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Offline caldera

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another dumb wish
« on: April 06, 2009, 09:07:52 PM »
OK, here goes: I would like to see a few changes to facilitate the use of more of the plane set. I'm asking this only because it gets a little stale always seeing Spits, 51Ds, Typhoons and Corsairs much more often than all the other planes. I get shot down by all the planes I meet, so it's not a whine about pwnage. It would be nice to see more people in different birds that are very capable but overlooked for the most competitive ones. Different planes might make for some exciting brawls as their flight characteristics aren't memorized by the whole AH population. Everyone knows what to expect out of a P-51 or a N1K. What about a C-205 or a Yak-9U?

#1. Make all aircraft with a 10 ENY or better get a small perk (relax, like 3 perks for 10 ENY, 4 for P-51 and 5 for 5 ENY). This wouldn't stop the die hard low ENY devotees from flying their faves but might encourage them to mix up their plane selection once in a while. Even noobs can come up with 5 perks in little time. Speaking of which...

#2. All new AH2 players get 1,500 perks in each category to play with. This lets them fly the uber rides for a while so they at least have a chance. Existing customers get their perk categories bumped up to 500 if they are below that number.

#3. As far as ground vehicles, a small perk of 5 on the uberwind wouldn't be out of line. The Ostwind is plenty capable and even the M-16 tears up vulchers on the runway. I was never any good at gvs, but I landed an 8 vulcher-kill sortie in the M-16 when i was a noob. It's not easy mode but it can be done.

#4. For bombers, a perk cost of 10 to take a formation of heavies. Single heavies and other formations remain free.

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 09:29:43 PM »
I agree.

Especially on planes such as LA7, Spixteen, Niki, and even my beloved Dora or K-4.

I dont agree with giving the Newbies that amount of eprks though. Maybe they should have t owork for those 10 perks to fly that LA 7 by flying older planes. (How it works on CoD)  :D

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 09:34:00 PM »
The main reason the 51 and Spit are used is because those are easy, deadly and fast aircraft to use. I still say +1, -1, i can't exactly be in want for this wish but neither can i say its truly fair.

Making the heavy bombers perked is a no go. -1
There are tons of people who bomb, and mainly the bombs go off course most of the time, but, I'm not saying they're bad bombers its just the wind and calibration at +20k makes bombing pretty hard.

Forget it, I'll go +2, -2.  :D

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 09:36:21 PM »
AH is a business.  Perking the aircraft hat make learning tolerable kills the rate at which people are willing to plunk down money after trying it out, and that in turn kills the business.
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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 09:56:49 PM »
Well i agree, eccept for the perk part. I have 700 perks and that is enough for me. Although i do think tha giving a new player 100 perks after the subscribe would be a good marketing ploy.  :aok
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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 10:05:22 PM »
Sort of off topic:  No, completely off topic:

Add a perk cost to everything.  Make the perk cost come into effect as the ENY goes up so you can "pay" to fly those aircraft that would normally become unavailable due to ENY.

Back on topic?:

Add a "bonus" to "unpopular" aircraft for points, etc.  There is already an ENY, OBJ, and cost modifier.  Mix up the OBJ a bit.

(Probably as big a PITA as ENY)


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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 11:15:13 PM »
I say perk everything except EW stuff..  dont give the new players crap.. start with 0, want better ride, LEARN to fly and fight, instead of jumping in a fast cannon bird and Hoing every thing in sight.

oh yea, double the monthly rate..   make up for the losers that cant hack it quitting, and weed out some riffraff.

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 11:18:45 PM »
Perk all planes with 3 or more cannons.  Thats what I would like to see.  U then would see more varity in planes.  But u will see more drag and bag, picks, ack hugging, etc...
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Offline StokesAk

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 11:22:50 PM »
Perk all planes with 3 or more cannons.  Thats what I would like to see.  U then would see more varity in planes.  But u will see more drag and bag, picks, ack hugging, etc...

How could there be more? Everyone does it.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 11:38:14 PM »
Perk all planes with 3 or more cannons.  Thats what I would like to see.  U then would see more varity in planes.  But u will see more drag and bag, picks, ack hugging, etc...
That is an irrational method of perking.
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Offline StokesAk

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 11:39:45 PM »
How bout this. If a muppet can't get more than 5 kills no re-arms TnB leave it unperked.
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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 12:04:55 AM »
That is an irrational method of perking.

This from someone who advocates perking based on whatever the History Channel is hyping enough that all the nooblets want to fly it this week?  :D  I mean, sure, its a lame idea, its incomplete, it doesn't take into account that 2xHispanos are better than 2 MG/151+2MG/FFs etc, but at least it is a crude attempt to base something on what the a/c can actually do.
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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 12:19:14 AM »
I say perk everything except EW stuff..  dont give the new players crap.. start with 0, want better ride, LEARN to fly and fight, instead of jumping in a fast cannon bird and Hoing every thing in sight.

oh yea, double the monthly rate..   make up for the losers that cant hack it quitting, and weed out some riffraff.


So how do you expect them to like AHII?
You expect them to take a P-40 or something is absolutely no experiences and kill someone who has been flying for a year in spit 16?
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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 12:29:12 AM »
This from someone who advocates perking based on whatever the History Channel is hyping enough that all the nooblets want to fly it this week? 
Show me where I have advocated that.  I never have and never will.  I think your idiotic drive to perk the Spit XVI is blinding you.

If, perchance, you are referring to my comments on the P-51D, those comments are not intended to advocate perking the P-51D, but to show the blatant absurdity of your claims that the Spit XVI is unbalancing.
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Offline caldera

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Re: another dumb wish
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 12:31:58 AM »
AH is a business.  Perking the aircraft hat make learning tolerable kills the rate at which people are willing to plunk down money after trying it out, and that in turn kills the business.

That's why you give them the perks up front. How many noobs would love to tool around in the Tiger or Tempest or 262? With this method, they could use up their perks however they wanted. What noob doesn't want the best stuff? And if they didn't want to blow it on 262s and Tigers, they could get more than enough sorties to become familiar with the game. But eventually the perks run out and they have to learn to use more challenging hardware. As it is now, the top four planes comprise what, 20% + of the planeset usage? What if everyone just decides to fly the only the best in order to keep up with the Joneses? It seems to be headed in that direction. Why even implement new planes unless they are mega-uber because they will gather dust bunnies in the hangar? The hangar is like The Island of Misfit Toys. So many cartoon planes that don't get taken out. They're crying.  :cry

Here are some examples of the # of sorties each noob can get to use the training wheel stuff:

1500 perks = 375 sorties in a P-51D (@4 perks/sortie)
               = 300 sorties in a Spit XVI (@5 perks/sortie)
               = 500 sorties in a Typhoon (@3 perks/sortie)
               = 150 sorties in a heavy buff formation (@10 perks/formation)
               = 300 sorties in a wirble (@5 perks/sortie)
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