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« on: February 26, 2001, 10:24:00 AM »
????

   


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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2001, 10:26:00 AM »
Amiot 143 ?

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2001, 10:47:00 AM »
Le Bombardier tres Buttugly!  

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2001, 11:47:00 AM »
I guess this settles the 'form over function' argument!

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2001, 02:04:00 PM »
It did not "fly", it was soooo buttugly that  the earth rejected it.  :-)

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2001, 04:15:00 PM »
Volkswagen Beetle Prototype!  

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2001, 07:16:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by straffo:
Amiot 143 ?

Yes sir, that's a flight of Amiot 143s. back in the 1920s and 30s, the Brits and French made a contest out of designing the ugliest aircraft in existance. The French won. A quick glance at their automobile designs of the last 30 years indicates that the French have expanded to the contest and dominate the genre with great skill.....  

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2001, 01:58:00 AM »
We rule in Car design  

Another proof of the outstanding design the French can produce :    http://www.avantime.renault.com

You are scared now  

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2001, 03:36:00 AM »
French not rules ???

humm i'm sure that an idea of one "i'm the center if the univers" american....

ps : France is at the univers center...  

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2001, 04:44:00 AM »
 
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ps : France is at the univers center...
The problem is that yours is some kind of alternative universe .

On the subject of ugly cars - Audi TT claims the throne outrunning the nearets competitors by miles !

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2001, 06:55:00 AM »
The French still make cars?  

*Looks out window at parking lot*

Hmmmmm.....

I see

American
British
German
Japanese
Korean
Mexican & Canadian (American Brands)
Swedish (Volvo is Swedish Right? Ah who cares its too damn boxy   )

Nope..... Nothing French I see.  

(I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a French car)


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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2001, 07:50:00 PM »
Amiot 143 ,it is  

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2001, 08:45:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by straffo:
We rule in Car design    

You are scared now    

Having been the owner of several French cars over the years, I feel that I am in a better position to judge than most Americans....

My first experience with these cars began when I purchased a new 1980 Renault R-5, called the Le Car here in the states. I liked it very much, although it was butt- ugly by any standard. A year later I bought a second R-5 for use in time/distance rallying. This second one was black. I bought a racing stripe kit and put two 2 inch
down the center of the car. Then, using a hair dryer, I removed the white lettering on each side that "Car" and replaced them with white letter decals that spelled out P-E-W.

I kept "Le Pew" for 6 years and it never once let me down. It wasn't fast. It had more body roll than a jet ski. It was the literal definition of 'ugly'. Yet, it could go anywhere, even on the beach. It could plow through deep snow a well as my CJ-5. It alway started, never broke down and was a joy to own in terms of cost and efficiency.

I only wish I could say the same for the 1982 Renault Fuego Turbo that I purchased for my wife in July of '82. This car made Bill Clinton appear trustworthy.....

I don't mean to imply that the French cannot design an attractive automobile. The problem as I see is that they refuse to. Perhaps this is more a reflection of the French culture which likes to be different. My time in France led me to believe that the nation has a stubborn desire to be independent in every aspect of life. However, this admirable trait does produce unique automobiles such as the 2CV, which must be considered the automotive equivilent of the Amiot 143......

Personally, my favorite French car is the Renault Alpine. With regard to racing machinery: The Matra endurance racers of the 1970s were truly beautiful.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2001, 09:15:00 AM »
 
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I only wish I could say the same for the 1982 Renault Fuego Turbo that I purchased for my wife in July of '82. This car made Bill Clinton appear trustworthy.....

My 1st car was a fuego (in the late 80) cheap car but lot of troubles   and I've no difficulties for spares pieces here...

 
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I don't mean to imply that the French cannot design an attractive automobile. The problem as I see is that they refuse to.
hehe  
 
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Perhaps this is more a reflection of the French culture which likes to be different. My time in France led me to believe that the nation has a stubborn desire to be independent in every aspect of life. However, this admirable trait does produce unique automobiles such as the 2CV, which must be considered the automotive equivilent of the Amiot 143......

Well the French are almost all individualist .For exemple if you look at tourist behaviour it's rare to see french  in groups when travelling in foreign country.

But you are a strange guys too! how comes you have bought an french car in USA ? as far as I know they didn't correspond to any US standard!


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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2001, 06:39:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by straffo:
But you are a strange guys too! how comes you have bought an french car in USA ? as far as I know they didn't correspond to any US standard!

Renault's met Federal requirements of the time. I enjoyed the Renault (that's pronounced Ray-No for the French impaired) cars. I really liked having an uncommon vehicle that could not be found in every other driveway. Moreover, the R-5s were solid little cars. I only wish the mid engine R-5 Turbo had been available here in the States. Although, I did purchase the Yankee eqivilent; the 1986 Dodge Shelby GLHS. This was a limited production (only 500 made), super-high performance version of the GLH Turbo (GLH stood for "Goes Like Hell"). 0-100 km/hr (62 mph) in 6.4 seconds, 245 km/hr (152 mph)maximum speed.

Cornering capability was remarkable at .94 g lateral. Its oversized brakes could slow the little four-door hatchback quick enough to cause nose-bleeds. Feeding requirements were a bit exotic. It required a steady diet of Corvettes and Porsches.   Today, 15 years later, the GLHS is still one of the most capable small sedans on the planet. The most amazing thing was probably the price. $11,000 U.S. bought one if, and only if, you got your order in six months in advance. The only major headache was replacing the head gasket every six to nine months. Too much boost.

I sold the car to my younger brother in 1997. He promptly exchanged the original 187 hp (175 hp stock, the higher rating was the result of installing Shelby's after market performance chip) 2.2 liter engine with a 217 hp 2.5 liter unit from a Dodge Shelby Spirit R/T. 0-100 km/hr times are now in the sub-six second category. The torque-steer will build you forearms like Popeye the Sailor's. 45 series tires on 16 inch wheels, with recalibrated Koni shocks have upgraded the handling a bit, but it still looks like a dressed up Dodge Omni. Perhaps the ultimate "sleeper", that old GLHS will humble some very exotic and hyper-expensive hardware. For a road test report, locate a copy of Hot Rod magazine, April 1986 issue, 'cause seeing is believing (I still have my copy).

My regards,

Widewing
My regards,

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