Question for all the people who call the spitfire 16 a noob plane.

[Karnak]

moot,

Spits have quirks.  The severity of them varies, but they have them, the Mk I and Mk XIV have them in spades.

As to it being ugly as sin, well, fortunately your taste in looks is abnormal.

Nobody is saying you have to like it, but pissing on other people's likes is going to get their hackles up and that is exactly what you are doing when you state a bunch of snide innuendo about their likes.

[MachFly]

Machfly, it's my opinion that those player's assumption that the guy in the spit16 is a noob is a hasty conclusion and more importantly beside the point. "Is he going to be a fun playmate" would be more relevant.

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[mechanic]

Batty says the only weakness [snip]

I said it's 'one profound weakness' not only weakness, i think it has others such as poor ability to slow down in a hurry and unstable wingloading in certain attitudes.
As to damage, I have hit spitfires in the engine block with 30mm and seen them fly home with an oil leak. Thats a bad place to aim for, one good 20mm is enough to remove the tail and the wings are certainly the easiest target to hit in a turn than most other fighters. just my opinion of course.

[BaldEagl]

I've seen how you fly.
You fly with extreme caution... timidity...  call it what you will.  In a spixteen you can get very aggressive, even more than most other planes because it is so forgiving. Your flying style doesn't allow you to exploit this.


Baldeagl doesn't need to worry about that.

You've only seen me fly a handful of times.  Once you picked me while I was already engaged, another time you ran then came back to pick me while I was engaged in a 3 on 1.  Once we sort of winged together but I ws in a K4 and the other time you flew by underneath me while your were RTB and I was headed out, asking me to go help another friendly in trouble.  How you come up with timid out of that I don't know.

Why did you turn into such a a@@ all of a sudden?  You used to be an OK guy.

[moot]

moot,

Spits have quirks.  The severity of them varies, but they have them, the Mk I and Mk XIV have them in spades.

As to it being ugly as sin, well, fortunately your taste in looks is abnormal.

Nobody is saying you have to like it, but pissing on other people's likes is going to get their hackles up and that is exactly what you are doing when you state a bunch of snide innuendo about their likes.

Sure, the spit 1 and XIV. The V has a terrible aileron authority to one side at low speed, e.g. coming over the top of a vert. The seafire and IX's quirks are less visible, and you have to really ignore the plane's feedback to get into that flat/invert spin..  The 8 and XVI's quirks are barely noticeable unless you purposedly look for them. 
-Esthetic taste: Sorry, but where the hurricane is smurfy and embraces it, the spit is a smurfy plane pretending to look good.  The XIV starts to look ok, pretty much all the others in AH look completely ordinary. No character.  I've seen a couple of other model spits, and I know there's a later mark that looks damn good. Like what the spit was meant to look like.  I can't remember which one it is. The double prop looks ok too.
-Pissing on others likes.. No two people have the same tastes. I'm not saying at all that people are wrong in their tastes.. Taste is inarguable. I empathize with people who like spits, as far as them being warbirds, flying war machines, or just the design aspect. I don't see spits as good looking though. The butterfly elliptical wing ends? 
Now the mossie OTOH On the mossie the ellipticals are a great fit. 

[Karnak]

Main quirk on the Mk VIII is how unbalanced the controls get at speed, light, responsive elevators and extremely stiff and slow reactions on the ailerons.

[helbent]

I think MACH is looking for some adoration from the community.  Not gonna happen from where I sit.

Let us recall machs actions in our squad, refused to ever fly anything hvy, JABO run mach in spit16, bomber run mach in spit 16, squad changes country for a month mach hunting squaddies and hoing in a spit 16.  Mach gets busted for spying, giving up a rook mission to a knight (on film), quits before getting booted.

Mach your a spit dweeb spying loser, face facts.

Not really even worth my time posting to this, but you are a wimp that epitomizes all spit16 wimps.

Thank you byebye

[BnZs]

Telling other players that they are wrong to use a very good tool in the game is sheer ass-hattery, nothing less, nothing more. Everyone has the same access to the same tools.

It is like choosing to fish only with dry flies, then complaining if the guy next to you catches more with live bait.

Then there are some who campaign to keep live bait unrestricted in their favorite stream, THEN complain when the old guy next to 'em shows up with a spinning rod and a bucket...'cause he's too "experienced" to use bait, WTF?

[moot]

That's a bad analogy (no fishes in AH, only fishermen), and I don't think anyone's argued that others ought to not fly the spit16. Just that it's a noob plane because it's pretty much a UFO.

[mechanic]

Is that a statement directed at AH's flight model or at the people who built the spitfire?

[moot]

My post? The people who built the spit have nothing to do with AH. Unless you mean HT's coad.

[mechanic]

the AcesHigh flight model is wrong then for the spit16?

[moot]

That's a moot point..

[Fianna]

I only read the first couple pages...


If I was flying for the RAF in WW2 and they assigned me a Spit XVI, I would gladly fly it. My life would be on the line, and I would want my plane to as good as possible. I would want every advantage over my opponent. I would not want the fight to be fair.


In this game, though, where the object is to have fun and where dying doesn't matter, I would hate to have to fly the Spit XVI all the time. It's not challenging, I'm not interested in it (relative to other planes), and I would look like a dweeb.





If the original poster is trying to draw some sort of parallel between the two situations, I think they're grasping at straws. AH2 =/ WW2, and anyone insinuating that we should, for some reason, act like this is an actual war needs take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard.

[Bark0]

I don't fly the spit, I don't Fight the spit (Unless it's a noob)

I don't fly the spit because it is so Maneuverable, when i try to fly the other planes their like bricks! which is why Back when I started I used the P-39 as my Training aircraft.

I don't fight the spit because it can do anything and everything. Literally.

If I was to be assigned a spit in WWII I would say no. Why? I am 14, and it takes alot more than Just Pressing a button and applying throttle to get one in the air. Plus I don't have My Pilots License.