How AH tank armour works.

[Pongo]

It seems that tank armour at least frontaly works this way on the Panzer IV.
Any shot in the turrent or upper hull will not penetrate. No matter the range.
Any shot on the lower hull will penatrate. No matter the range no matter the ammo type.
Ie smoke will kill a panzer IV or ostwind if it hits lower hull.
No turrent hit will kill an ostwind. even at 50 yards.
Certainly the armour penetration and the models for these vehicles need some work.

Obviosly there is nothing realistic about this. The Panzer IV H is very heavily ballanced towards gun power. IE it can easily kill a tank of its own kind due to its good gun vs weak armour.
Smoke will never kill a tank. The turrent is accutally the weakest armour on the panzer IV not the strongest. The turrent on an ost wind can be penetrated by a panzer iv at the horizon.
For some reason the ostwind has an increadable ability to gun kill a Panzer IV. I dont know why. But it is frustrating to hit an ostwind in the turrent and upper hull several times without success. Only to have him take out your gun first shot he hits with.

[StSanta]

Heh once I was vulching a spawn point wher eenemy osties came out. Naturally, I aimed for the turret.

Nothing. Three rounds, nothing. Then I tried for tracks - BOOOM.

Same thing happened three times in a row, after which I just aimed for the tracks.

Range: d100.

The osty damage model is still screwed up.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[funked]

37mm to lower front hull of Panzer will kill it with 2 shots.  Even .50 cal (M3/M16) can kill the Panzer with 150 rounds into the lower hull.

[Maverick]

Takes more than 150 rounds of 50 cal to kill a buff. Guess the buffs have more armor than the Panzer!  

Mav

[Karnak]

It takes 12 rounds of 50 cal to kill a buff.  Precisely 12 rounds.

Interesting info about the armor on the PnZ and Osti.  Not good.

Sisu
-Karnak

[Maverick]

 

Originally posted by Karnak:
It takes 12 rounds of 50 cal to kill a buff.  Precisely 12 rounds.

Interesting info about the armor on the PnZ and Osti.  Not good.

Sisu
-Karnak

Not in my experiance. I had 2 engagements against a lanc. Once I got in position to fire I ended with less than 200 rounds left in the pony I was driving. That was in each occurance. Nope I was not spraying and praying. I closed to under 500 before firing and had a continuous hit splash with few tracers going either over or under.

Mav

[Ghosth]

Guess this explains why I can put 20 to 50 rounds of 37mm ammo into osty/panzer turret with no damage seen. While they one or 2 shot kill me every time.

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by Maverick:
Not in my experiance. I had 2 engagements against a lanc. Once I got in position to fire I ended with less than 200 rounds left in the pony I was driving. That was in each occurance. Nope I was not spraying and praying. I closed to under 500 before firing and had a continuous hit splash with few tracers going either over or under.

Mav

Time to look for your gunnery rate  
Hits counts, not the misses....   next time, just record the attack and then count hits in the film viewer mode with slow motion  

[funked]

Just a little while ago I was in an Ostwind and put 100 rounds into a Panzer from about 1500 yards.  No effect.  I watched the ammo counter go from 750 to 650.  Every shot was a hit on his right turret or right track.  Then he figured out where the fire was coming from, traversed his turret and blew me away.  Wish I had filmed it!

[Maverick]

fishu,

Read what I said in the post. Your response indicates that you didn't.