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Offline BnZs

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"Double-Superior"
« on: April 10, 2009, 07:31:56 PM »
Since some are apparently unfamiliar with what this term means, and apparently think it means "velly, velly good", I reference Shaw:

A "double-superior" condition occurs when one fighter has both significantly higher T/W [Thrust-weight ratio] and lower wing loading than its opponent. Obviously the unlucky adversary in this situation is "double-inferior".

--Robert Shaw, Fighter Combat, page 183.

Thank you, that is all.
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 08:25:59 PM »
Not at all condescending or conceited, bravo!

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 08:45:05 PM »
So, what about it?  :confused:

That's it.   :rolleyes:

You woke me up to clarify a definition any passable student of ACM already knows?  For no other reason than to show us you finally mastered 3rd grade reading level?   :D
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 08:52:20 PM »
Triple inferior- When given the opportunity of a double superior and blowing it.

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 08:55:41 PM »
So, what about it?  :confused:

That's it.   :rolleyes:

You woke me up to clarify a definition any passable student of ACM already knows?  For no other reason than to show us you finally mastered 3rd grade reading level?   :D

Some apparently did not know what it meant. Since I was accused of using this term as a superlative indicating "double-plus-good" or the like, I wanted to make clear what the term actually means.

And you've proved what exactly with this love muffinery? That it is quite physically safe to make unprovoked insults on the internet? Some of us learned that a long time ago,  and long ago realized what it indicates about the...hmmm....let us say the "dorsal coloration" of the person doing it.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 08:57:22 PM by BnZs »
"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 10:26:28 PM »
Does this mean we're on double secret probation now?

Or did you just double dog dare us? :)
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 11:04:06 PM »
Double-dweeb?
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 11:13:08 PM »
I was completely ignorant of that definition.  Good post (so long as you ignore the trolls).
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 11:15:45 PM »
Double Dare


I always wanted to go on this show when I was a kid.

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 11:27:57 PM »
Finally i can die in peace.
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 11:32:54 PM »
Double Dare


I always wanted to go on this show when I was a kid.

I'm glad I was born in '93 so I didn't have to put up with the full 10 years of this crap (by 'this crap' I mean the 90's as a whole) :D

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 12:40:05 AM »
Can someone give an example? lol?

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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 01:01:01 AM »
Thanks for the clarification, BnZs.


EDIT:

Mk XVI still isn't double-superior to all free fighters, but it is too many, as are some other free fighters compared to others.
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 01:35:01 AM »
Thanks for the clarification, BnZs.


EDIT:

Mk XVI still isn't double-superior to all free fighters, but it is too many, as are some other free fighters compared to others.

No problem. :)

Indeed, the SpitXVI labors under the tremendous burden of only having a higher T/W *or* a lower wing loading compared to some free aircraft. ;)

Agree or disagree, I hope you realize my theory that the SpitXVI presents a viability problem in the MA for a broad middle class of aircraft in between the uber-turners and speed-demons is NOT something I'm just making up to stick in your craw.  :salute
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Re: "Double-Superior"
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 02:55:30 AM »
Other fighters have that "problem" too, so I don't see how that singles the Spit XVI out.  It is obviously one of the best free fighters in the game, but there will always be a few fighters that qualify as that.  Even if everything after 1941 were perked, there'd still be a subgroup that could be called "best free fighters" and that people would use over the other free fighters.
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