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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2009, 11:52:58 PM »
You would bet wrong!  It seems to me you don't know as much as you would like to think.
HD3300 runs crysis on low settings and in this lifetime just fine. According to AH tech, c-media and on-board sound often gives users problems. I have no problems running sound with any other games with either sound card.
 
It don't appear that you keep up with Tomshardware or the many other tech sites which rated the phenom II x3 720 the best bang for the buck.

Wow, who is this?   You plan an "attempted character assassination" against someone taking time out of his business to help others?   I built my own and still may send mine to TilDeath and have him "swap cases".   He has PROVEN time and time again, "He gives a damn about every customer he deals with."    You run on-board graphics, sound and wonder why your "clipboard is spinning"?    Skuzzy is probably still scratching over that post from a month ago. 

I was the one who "mentioned the Sound Blaster".   Since you ignored my post in that thread, you now add a 4th "no name brand" sound card.   You wonder why you're having problems?   Take a break and smell what you're shoveling please.   

All of this for 30 posts and registering in 2006?    Something doesn't add up here folks.   But I'll be damned if I'll sit back and watch TilDeath get mocked by someone like this. 
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2009, 02:18:23 AM »
Nevermind
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 06:13:14 AM »
When information provided is accurate, I tend to stay out of the threads, but GenMata you are not providing accurate information.

1)  CMedia has a long standing history of providing lousy sound card/chip drivers.  I have two motherboards here with CMedia devices and I can lock them up with over 15 different games.

2)  Onboard video chips use system RAM which is several times slower than dedicated video RAM.  It also reduces the amount of system RAM available to applications.  They also cannot act asynchrounously to the CPU, meaning when the CPU needs to access memroy the video chip has to wait, and vice-versa.  Add on cards can operate 100% asynchronously to the CPU and vice-versa.  This makes threading a good thing.

3)  The biggest problems most people have with sound is forcing EAX on or Dolby on or using an incorrect speaker configuration or installing two sound devices on the same IRQ.  Or trying to use a USB headset with a different configuration of speakers for the regular sound card.  Or using a sound card which has horrible support for DirectSound.

4)  AMD dual-core CPU's have a compatibility bug in them, we happen to hit.  We are not the only application which runs into the issue.

5)  Just because some WEB site reviewer says something does not make it the truth.  Most of them are driven by ad revenue and by extension, they become a marketing arm for whoever is paying the bills.

Most people on this site speak from experience and have a background to back it up.  I tend to ride this forum pretty hard as it is very important for people to get accurate information.  It does have an impact on my livelihood.

You are, what I would call, a one-quote wonder.  You come off as a person who is very shallow in knowledge, which makes you prone to making erroneous statements or drawing erroneous conclusions.  I have an obligation to make sure this community is not lead to do things, which could cause problems with their computer systems.

You take the approach of making personal attacks and quoting other WEB sites for your support, while the people you are attacking have proven, time and time again, they know what they are talking about.

You, by your own admission, had to search our site to find out about problems with the sound card.  If you had the experience most of the people here have, you would have already known the answer.

If you really want to get along here, leave the fanbois routines at the door and try showing a little respect to the community.  It you continue to post up preposterous solutions which we all know are not anything remotely close to ideal, while denigrating others who have proven their expertise, you will find yourself not welcome here at all.

No one here, including me, knows everything, but you are at the bottom rung of the knowledge ladder, by your own doing.
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 07:49:28 AM »
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:

Dont watse money on Alienware or one of those companies.  Like everyone else said, build yourself or have a professional do it at a LOW cost with outstanding service.  That would be TilDeath.

Look at some of his work, talk to him, and you will eventually decide paying him a small fee to build and setup your rig for you is worth every penny.


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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2009, 08:29:43 AM »
Yea same here. I built my own out of pride and determiantion to do so. But, definitely, had I not been hellbent and determined to do so, I would have had Tildeath built it. I took every drop of advice he gave very seriously and for the most part, incorporated everything he said into my build. In retrospect I see the wisdom of those choices, even though I did not understand the "whys" at the time. That quality of knowledge Tildeath has is not something you just know, it can only be had by vast experience.
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 11:40:38 AM »

4)  AMD dual-core CPU's have a compatibility bug in them, we happen to hit.  We are not the only application which runs into the issue.


for some reason the X2 7750 doesnt not have this bug..

my X2 5000+ had it
my X2 3800+ had it

but since owning the X2 7750 chip i have not had the spinning clipboard or anything of that nature i have had with the previous non phenom core X2's.

so when refering to X2's please note unless someone else can show this bug with this chip, please exclude it.

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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 11:43:37 AM »
I'll need one more confirmation on that Zohan.  What OS are you using?  If XP, did it already come with SP3?  If Vista, did it already include SP1?
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 12:00:49 PM »
I read several articles that said the x2 7750 was based on the TLB bug free version (B3). If I read that right that is the same architecture as the x3 and x4 phenoms. Now I didn't read any tests.

If that is true then gamers have a good inexpensive alternative. Just avoid the other previous x2s.

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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 12:04:50 PM »
Just as a reminder not all Intel systems are free from spinning clipboard either. I had a Intel board with ATI R600 chipset (integrated video) that had the spinning clipboard problem. It happened also with a pci-e display card so it was some problem related to the chipset.
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 01:02:01 PM »
The only time I have run into the 'spinning clipboard' syndrome with Intel CPU's was with some laptop chips and it turned out one core was being shutdown too agressively in power management.

I have not heard of any issues with regular desktop CPU's though.

AMD has had a fix for the issue since about 2 months after they started shipping the dual core CPU's.  If they finally took the hit and created a new master for production, it would be great.
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2009, 02:25:40 PM »
This product gave me the spinning clipboard even with a separate displaycard: http://europe.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4Core1333-FullHD&s=775
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2009, 04:22:14 PM »
Interesting.  I wonder the ATI motherboard chipset does not support the dual high resolution timers in the Intel dual-core CPU's.

I'll dig about.
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Re: Help requested......re: new gaming machine(s)
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2009, 09:14:53 PM »
I'll need one more confirmation on that Zohan.  What OS are you using?  If XP, did it already come with SP3?  If Vista, did it already include SP1?

i run XP sp2 (VLK)  upgraded to sp3