You missed the point. A dogfight happens to have an objective. Otherwise why be there? If you are loosing the fight then you find a way to reset the fight. If that means you extend to gain an advantage from a disadvantage then that is part of a dogfight. To sit there and say, "well he got on my 6 so I'll just go level and die because both I and he deserve what's about to happen" is pure BS (spelled bolshevik). If I extend and retake the initiative and shoot him done then guess what...He died. I didn't. That is a dogfight. If you actually feel that because you happened to get an advantage on someone that you should then, and rightfully so (in your mind) be handed the kill. Then when I finally retire and can I really wanna start smokin whatever it is that you have.
Talk about a dream world..."i beat you for an instant so i deserve the kill, roll over and take it like a man" MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
In a dogfight it's not over until someone goes down in flames. Period.
ps- you gotta tell me what yer on so I can start saving for it.
I'm sure glad it's not your football...No one would be playing here.
Ren
First off I don't know why you have such a bug up your bellybutton here, we are just discussing things and everyone has an opinion.
Second, you said so yourself, you run to "reset the fight" so that means you have given up on the present one and are looking to make a new one. To me, like you said a fight is until one is dead, so I'd stay in the fight and try some of that "pilot crap" they talk about to turn the position around. Also like I said I end up in the tower often, which is ok with me.
Third this thread was about mediocre play and using lame game play to keep up with those that are willing to spend some time to learn. I threw together a list of what I though most people would concider lame game play and suggest we all work to point out such a list to the other players.
* HOs lame
* dive bombing lancs lame or any heavy bomber
* running NOEs with 12 110s, 4 goons, and a half dozen or so NIKs lame
* spawn camping lame
* being the 6th guy in on a single bad guy lame
* suicide dive bombers lame
* bringing a CV close enough to dry spawn lame
* hiding captured CVs lame
So Ren, would you say that the above list would be something that people should add to their list of things to excel at? Are these the "tactics" ( and I use that term as loosely as possible here) that should be pushed into the game, or out? Because today we are seeing it pushed in more than ever.
Like I said before, you can fight how you like, its your dime, but its not how I fly a fight. The line is viewed a bit different from your side, but while I don't like it I wouldn't consider it lame game play. Much like Mace values his "game life" who am I to say other wise.
All I'm trying to do here is to point out the lame game play that has infested this game. 5 years ago it was much better, and you know it, because you were there. The only hordes where furballs, and more often than not the land grabber left them alone. BnZ, turn fighting, furball, strategic, and tactical play was all there with very little "griefing". Today its who has the biggest steam roller.... great improvement!