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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2009, 11:36:40 AM »
Fw190A5. Enuf said. :aok

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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2009, 07:36:28 PM »
AKAK just needs to come out of retirement and show you all how it is done.   :noid
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2009, 07:57:37 PM »
AKAK just needs to come out of retirement and show you all how it is done.   :noid

I've posted many a write up and films over the years showing how to fight Spitfires of all types and scenarios in a P-38.  One just has to look for them.  Murdr also has posted many write ups and films showing the same thing.

It's not worth my time to come out of 'retirement' for one day.


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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2009, 08:02:23 PM »
It's not worth my time to come out of 'retirement' for one day.
My goading skills require upgrading . . .
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2009, 05:23:36 PM »
The best fighter for nubes it clearly the P51D, it has the best KTD ratio for nubes as it allows them to escape when their skills won't kill them through safely and it packs a reasonable punch; it is my favorite non perk interceptor as it can fly faster than any other non perk plane in the game at most altitudes (bomber altitudes). My favorit dogfighter is either the spit mk16 or the Fw.190D. The best attack fighter is the P47 as they can carry a respectable bomb load, and once light on bombs and fule it makes a decent dogfighter and with those 8 .50 caliber brownings ONE mistake and my opponet is a flaming wreck!!!  :salute
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2009, 05:27:04 PM »
The best fighter for nubes it clearly the P51D, it has the best KTD ratio for nubes as it allows them to escape when their skills won't kill them through safely and it packs a reasonable punch; it is my favorite non perk interceptor as it can fly faster than any other non perk plane in the game at most altitudes (bomber altitudes). My favorit dogfighter is either the spit mk16 or the Fw.190D. The best attack fighter is the P47 as they can carry a respectable bomb load, and once light on bombs and fule it makes a decent dogfighter and with those 8 .50 caliber brownings ONE mistake and my opponet is a flaming wreck!!!  :salute

Several unperked planes have a better k/d ratio than the P-51D, including the P-38J and Ta-152H. The D9 consistently has a higher k/d than the P-51D, and is for the most part better at the P-51D's usual b'n'z game.

What the P-51D has is the "name".
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2009, 08:58:36 PM »
Several unperked planes have a better k/d ratio than the P-51D, including the P-38J and Ta-152H. The D9 consistently has a higher k/d than the P-51D, and is for the most part better at the P-51D's usual b'n'z game.

What the P-51D has is the "name".

Using those numbers isn't very accurate and really doesn't say anything.  It has already been proven that the K/D of planes like the P-38J are skewed by a small number of experienced P-38 drivers.  The P-51Ds numbers are skewed due to the large amounts of new and timid players that fly it.

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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2009, 09:39:40 AM »
Using those numbers isn't very accurate and really doesn't say anything.  It has already been proven that the K/D of planes like the P-38J are skewed by a small number of experienced P-38 drivers.  The P-51Ds numbers are skewed due to the large amounts of new and timid players that fly it.

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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2009, 09:40:42 AM »
If all the new players jumped in a D9 or PJ, they would have terrible k/d ratios.  
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2009, 11:47:17 AM »
And here comes the look at me and my plane stats in the Midwar rant.  We get it akak, you pwn in midwar.  We got tired of hearing about it a long time ago.
Hey --- your ignorance is showing . . . might want to zip.

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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2009, 12:44:39 PM »
Assuming the pilots are equal, the Mk XVI will win.

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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2009, 12:55:55 PM »
If all the new players jumped in a D9 or PJ, they would have terrible k/d ratios.  


For the P-38 this is no doubt true. For the D9, this is false, because the D9 does 90% of what a P-51 does but does it better. Better top speed at typical MA alts, much better climb and accel, better roll rate. What the P-51 does better than the D9 basically comes down to turning, but as this is not a great strength of the P-51 vs. anything *except* a Fw, this is not such a great matter. If the P-51 did not have the "name" the Dora's usage in the same role would be greater.
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2009, 01:11:35 PM »
Ta152 hands down. Just can't get into very long flat turning gambits.
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2009, 03:43:12 PM »
For the P-38 this is no doubt true. For the D9, this is false, because the D9 does 90% of what a P-51 does but does it better. Better top speed at typical MA alts, much better climb and accel, better roll rate. What the P-51 does better than the D9 basically comes down to turning, but as this is not a great strength of the P-51 vs. anything *except* a Fw, this is not such a great matter. If the P-51 did not have the "name" the Dora's usage in the same role would be greater.

To a new player, the FW has some odd high g stall characteristics, which usually means him auguring in.  If you stick with the fw a few time you'll figure out what you did wrong.  51 flys well fast all the time.
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Re: What do YOU consider the best fighter?
« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2009, 04:37:30 PM »
And here comes the look at me and my plane stats in the Midwar rant.  We get it akak, you pwn in midwar.  We got tired of hearing about it a long time ago.

Oh please sweet cheeks, I know you're still upset at the arse kicking I gave you when i still flew but it's time you let it go.  All that anger is going to upset your little stomach.

My example was just to show that K/D can't be used to determine how effective a plane is because the stats can be easily skewed.  I know that you don't have the skill to skew the stats like some others can but maybe in time you'll be able to my little sweet cheeks.

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