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Offline Citabria

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the B24 Liberator : wise choice for upcoming bomber
« on: November 02, 2001, 01:31:00 AM »
as is evidenced by warbirds the b24 liberator is a very strong contender for the futue AH bomber that will see the most use in the hard knock Aces High Main Arena.

I think it is great that we have a bomber from each country but what the statistics reveal is that US/brit bombers are used most due to their defensive guns,payload and durability.

buff drivers use b26,b17 and lanc mostly. when they feel like glutton for punishment or are using the buff in a specialized role they take the lesser buffs.

looking at how difficult it is in the MA for bombers to complete their missions gives reason to believe that the B-24 would find good usage in the main arena and scenarios.

I am curious about HTC's interest in the B24.
if i remember correctly they have all the data from their research making the WB b24. perhaps this would speed its addition?


anyways,
conclusion:
B24 liberator will be a bomber that gets used in Aces High in amounts similar to the b17,b26 and lancaster.

and the B-24 is my all time favorite bomber   :p
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2001, 01:33:00 AM »
the b24 is to the b17 what the p47 is to the p51  :)
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2001, 02:33:00 AM »
Not exactly.  The B24 is very easy to shoot down, compared to the B17.

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2001, 03:10:00 AM »
how bout compared to the ju88 or g4m?
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2001, 03:42:00 AM »
Heh...every time I would see a G4M2 in WB, I would start to drool.  Almost as easy to kill as the Ju-52. :)

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2001, 04:46:00 AM »
Please no more gunships in AH. With the B17 ackstar we have enough for now.

Bring some german latewar bomber if you are so worried for it being little protected. A Ju188 would be just OK with me, but a He177 would be a dream

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2001, 07:13:00 AM »


looks good till the sturmbocks get there .........

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2001, 07:32:00 AM »
:cool: Wotan

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »
He177 please.

Offline Wutz

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2001, 11:06:00 AM »
Good damn it... More Yank Buffs. No give me the He-177 or Ju-188. (ok, ok, a B-29 would be cool, But not the B-24) No dont get me wrong the B-24 should be in the game, but first after 1 German and 1 Italian 1 russian and 1 Japanes Heavy Bomber is released.

Give us a fair planeset for all 6 countries. (Japan,Italy,Germany,Russia,UK,Us)

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2001, 11:07:00 AM »
While I would like to see a B24 eventually, I think it would be a poor choice in the near term.

I think Pyro once told me that to do a bomber, it takes as much art resources (ie time to develope) to build a bomber with 4 pilot/gun positions as it does to do 4 fighters. Thats why we have so few bombers.

Right now we need a Japanese bomber (no not the Betty), a Russian bomber, and for those masochists out there, maybe even an Italian bomber  ;)

The B24 just doesnt' do anything significantly different that the B17 doesn't already do. The same for the B25, its functionally the same as the B26.

Oh, and anyone who thinks that the Ki67 is going to be an easy kill like the G4M Betty, is in for one wicked suprise.  :D Depending on which model Pyro does, it has a mix of 20mm cannons and 12.7mm MG's as defensive guns, and its much faster than any true Buff (ie no mossie) we have in the arena.

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2001, 01:12:00 PM »
Vermillion, well said :)

  NO MORE US stuff fore a while plz :)

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2001, 01:37:00 PM »
Uh...this isn't "Fighter Ace"  

Although with the sentiment I see in these message-board, I think a FA-style arena might work well here.  That's not a bad thing, it might be interesting to try sometime.

There's utterly no need for a Russian heavy bomber, or a Japanese heavy bomber, or an Italian heavy bomber, or even a German heavy bomber (unless you create a FA arena).   They simply didn't exist in signifigant enough numbers to matter.   Adding such planes would be like adding the TA-152 or F4U-1C--cute for the MA, but next to useless for scenarios, and really a waste of effort.

The B-24 IS the logical next 4-engine plane.  That said, that only proves we have enough heavy bombers in AH for now--except maybe for early-war versions (like a B-17E).

There are two major holes in AH's planeset (as far as scenarios are concerned).  There's a shortage of single and twin-engine attack aircraft (SBD's and BF-110's and Kates and TU-2's and such), and there's a shortage of early to mid-war Pacific aircraft (F4F's and P-40's and Oscars and such).  

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2001, 02:14:00 PM »
J_A_B...There were about 1,100 He177s built. I don't consider that an insignificant number.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2001, 02:36:00 PM »
I would love to see the B24 in the game - and it should be - more of them were produced than any other 4 engine bomber.

I'm more interested in shooting bombers down than in flying them, so give me more US iron to blow to bits!  :)