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Offline Sincraft

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What do you like/dislike about missions?
« on: April 18, 2009, 10:52:23 AM »
Recently, my brother and I (the only other member of our squad), have been running missions to capture bases.  I know many of you dislike NOE type missions but for the most part, this is what we do.  We have been rather successful when normally low numbers have failed.  Usually we start out with just a hand full of guys, then more trickle in after each successful mission.  I'm usually surprised by the 3rd mission to see 30 guys behind us.

So, this makes me wonder a few things. 

When we first start, I'm not very energetic about missions.  Once we get rolling though, it becomes fun.  I realized something last night.  I think it's more about the teamwork rather than taking the bases.  It's more about talking it up with a group of guys and accomplishing a common goal (or at least attempting!).

So while I know many of you probably hate NOE missions, or if you were a knight last night...you probably hate them even more, what types of missions do you like?

What makes a mission fun for you...or not?
What do YOU consider a fun mission?


I would like to incorporate some thoughts into future missions.  Neither of us are big on running missions as they can be nerve racking sometimes, but just taking off and furballing is getting me down to be honest. 

So if you have the time, and don't mind - I like to hear your thoughts. 

Thanks!

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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 10:55:37 AM »
I dislike that if you go on them its basicly if its an NOE misson you fly 2 sectors to kill 3 town buildings, not worth my time. But i love to intercept NOE missons and get a few kills. :)
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2009, 10:58:46 AM »
More than anything is I like the abrupt humor when a bunch of folks get together.


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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 11:05:57 AM »
A mission is a number of targets flying together to my convenience
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2009, 11:07:05 AM »
the only missions i really care for anymore are the completely absurd.. like a horde of stukas.. or c202's.. etc etc.


our squad once did a multi-prong strat pork run to an enemy zone.. IIRC, city, ord factory, troop factory, radar factory, ack factory all down to 0% or close to 0%... done with like 10 set of lancs from like 25k alt.. even got to kill several interceptors... that was pretty fun..
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 11:11:34 AM »
I like running into a mission w/ a d9 or a big bomber mission w/ a 262!
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 11:12:30 AM »
I generally only like themed missions, such as-

-noe mossies
-kamikaze d3a/b5n anti-cv, it's been years since i can recall a horde of b5ns dive bombing into a cv with screams of kamikazeeeee on 200.
-ju88s/stukas escorted by 109Es
-b17s escorted by p51s

stuff like that is fun whether the mission succeeds or not.
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 11:39:08 AM »
Missions, first and most importantly are suppose to be fun.... for everyone, friend and foe alike.

For me the only reason to run an NOE mission, is as a support to the main mission. Say your hitting a base, and while you knocked out the VH the enemy is spawning GVs in from another base. Shifting the battle to the other base would pose the same problem, and the defense is high enough that your going to need more than the 15 minutes it down to get things under control. You assign 5 or 6 guys to run an NOE to the other base to try and sneak it, all the while maintaining the battle you have going. Defenders have two battles IF they spot it...more fun for both sides... you relieve pressure at the main attack and force the defenders to work a new tactic...more fun for both again.

All other missions should be of some altitude. High alt bombers lift 15 minutes before fighter escort, will give you rondevous at high alt. Mid alt needs more fighter cover, so you need some fighters heavy for clean up, others lite for cover. Having a couple of buff groups hitting ord and SB just as a CV group launches an attack can be tough to time out but is really cool when it works.

When I was CO of a squad, squad night I felt it was my duty to make the night as entertaining as possible. The more fun the squad had the more guys would show up for the next one. Its all about having fun. You have to look at your missions from the other side too. You said you run a lot of NOE missions, and commented that the Knight probably hate them. If the Knights had been doing them to you, would it have been as much for you as running them? I think not. Plan your missions to have fun, COUNT on defense poping up and make it PART of your fun. If you hit a base with 20 guys and only a few defenders show have your guys back off the field, only shoot guys that come out of the ack. You have enough people to put a circle around the ack, let the defenders give it a go. More fun for them, and more challenge for your guys, so more fun for them too.

To many people believe that the object of the mission is the capture, but its really to create fun for as many people who want to join in it.

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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »
Hurricane Mk. 2D raids are always fun. :)
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 12:05:56 PM »
I really don't care for missions at all. The only missions we do from time to time involve taking something like stukas with no bombs into a fray and dogfighting. The goal is accomplished when we have fun.

I enjoy the camaraderie of our squad and do not require a horde to accomplish anything.
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 12:13:17 PM »
Plan your missions to have fun, COUNT on defense poping up and make it PART of your fun. If you hit a base with 20 guys and only a few defenders show have your guys back off the field, only shoot guys that come out of the ack. You have enough people to put a circle around the ack, let the defenders give it a go. More fun for them, and more challenge for your guys, so more fun for them too.

To many people believe that the object of the mission is the capture, but its really to create fun for as many people who want to join in it.

I think the biggest thing is the intent during the planning of the mission.  If you plan to avoid combat and take a base then you aren't accomplishing anything.  Imo you should plan for a positive gameplay mission for everybody, but I don't think you should back off from a base if your mission is to take it down and capture it.  If you plan out a fair mission and are still able to crush the base, too bad, capture it and be done with it.  

So what is a fair mission?  That's up to the mission planner to decide, but it usually involves flying with altitude and less than 20 guys attacking an undefended base.  

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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 12:14:26 PM »
I enjoy the camaraderie of our squad


Same. And all of us bailing to get to the next fight is about as coordinated as we get :) .


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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 12:17:19 PM »
I only participate/Plan historical missions. Meaning i don't mix American with German iron nor Russian with Jap planes. I make alot of Luftwaffe missions since i am in fact, Luftwaffe oriented. Anyone that has ran any type of mission with me will vouch that my missions are: Fun, Well Planned, Immerse, and Action packed.

I always have a en route, plan, and egress plan with all of my missions. I plan the route, the mission which it will perform, and the egress direction, base, etc.  I think alot of rooks as well as knights and bishops remember my past massive Bomber Raids from rook nation, good times indeed.  :cool:

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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2009, 12:19:02 PM »
My squad does stuff like that, Shuffler. This one time (at band camp), we upped 5 goons, climbed to alt and dive-bombed our troops onto a remote and untouched field. The best part was getting on the 6 of a 205 that was defending and he stick-stirred his way back to the ack. I imagine that he was terrified when he got the check6 call: "LOOK OUT! Goon on your 6!!!"
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Re: What do you like/dislike about missions?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2009, 12:19:37 PM »
 :rofl
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