What do you like/dislike about missions?

[MrMeanie]

hordes i mean missions are the best part of the game.. other then spwan camping i think

[StokesAk]

DuhWeeb. 

[Krusty]

Taking bombers in to meet the enemy, the enemy has MORE than ample notice to take off in gigantic horde-like [EDIT: assuming normal MA operations, not couting 30K buffs flying outside historical alts] numbers (I'm looking at YOU rooks...) and swarm any attackers. Not to mention that even if FH are taken down, there can still be upwards of 50 planes in the air after that point, and massive spamming of IL2s and Bostons and B25Hs to kill town-killers and hunt goons.

It far from shuts the fight down. When done right it helps take a base. When done wrong, well... you get "knit capture attempts" that last 2 hours and nobody knows what the heck they're doing.

[crazyivan]

Its not an NOE mission till you loose your goon, face planting into a mountain. Ahh NUTZ.

Have to admit first guy that augers is my hero.

[Shuffler]

My squad does stuff like that, Shuffler. This one time (at band camp), we upped 5 goons, climbed to alt and dive-bombed our troops onto a remote and untouched field. The best part was getting on the 6 of a 205 that was defending and he stick-stirred his way back to the ack. I imagine that he was terrified when he got the check6 call: "LOOK OUT! Goon on your 6!!!"
I tried to vulch him - hoping he would auger but I did instead.  

Now that is what it is all about <S>

[BnZs]

First, 30K is a perfectly historical alt for buffs.

Second, no one wants to fool with the darn things, for good reasons With the formations and the linked laser-like guns, shooting accurately from a perfectly still platform out to 800 yards, buff-hunting is simultaneously more dangerous, more boring, and far less glamorous than engaging fighters.

Taking bombers in to meet the enemy, the enemy has MORE than ample notice to take off in gigantic horde-like [EDIT: assuming normal MA operations, not couting 30K buffs flying outside historical alts] numbers (I'm looking at YOU rooks...) and swarm any attackers. Not to mention that even if FH are taken down, there can still be upwards of 50 planes in the air after that point, and massive spamming of IL2s and Bostons and B25Hs to kill town-killers and hunt goons.

It far from shuts the fight down. When done right it helps take a base. When done wrong, well... you get "knit capture attempts" that last 2 hours and nobody knows what the heck they're doing.

[Krusty]

No, 30K is not normal operations. B24s could not fly higher than 27K according to one report. B17s could barely fly at 30K but operationally did not as much as "some" on these forums claim.

The difference was the flexible design on the B-24, it flexed and warped too much at higher alts/speeds, and was dangerous to fly so high.


But I meant "take off this field, hit that field with intent on taking it" not "take off 200 miles behind enemy lines, go AFK 2 hours, come back in space, bomb with laser precision from orbit, and run away at full speed".

I meant direct missions, not roundabout fight-avoidance missions.

[Vudak]

I generally only like themed missions, such as-

-noe mossies
-kamikaze d3a/b5n anti-cv, it's been years since i can recall a horde of b5ns dive bombing into a cv with screams of kamikazeeeee on 200.
-ju88s/stukas escorted by 109Es
-b17s escorted by p51s

stuff like that is fun whether the mission succeeds or not.

Yep, or in other words, missions with some thought behind them. 

I've had some great fun either joining, or flying around, Filth's missions in the past.  The big B-17 raids with an actual escort, going in at an altitude (10-15k) that's a good compromise between chance of overall success and chance of interception.  I can be persuaded to join a mission like that very easily.

The missions that I will not fly, are the ones were there are random planes tossed into it, ALL loaded to the gills with bombs (I mean, really, Spitfires?  Take the DT, if anything extra), that are going to head in one large clump on the deck somewhere. 

[redman555]

Simple, one word, SPIES


-BigBOBCH

[A8TOOL]

Missions...I like e'm

2 bases fighting, one has an overwhelming advantage...take four guys and kill gv hanger and the FH's. Gives your side 15 minutes to recuperate.

One base out in the middle of no where..take it and get one step closer to their zone base plus helps take pressure off your near by base thats being hammered.

NOE to a lightly defended base and take it. Sets strategic stage for a new area to fight in.

4 guys kill all ack and VH at a field and climb using the wagon wheel tactic, fun fun fun..Return home with kills when out of ammo, damaged or overwhelmed which surely is going to happen.

Heavily defended base, take everything out and clear town of GV's, send your own in while others help wipe sky clear of all bad guys. Send a couple to the nearest enemy  base and hold them down while take is in progress.

Kill all ord and troops at all near by bases and put a stop to the hoard thats rolled 3-5 bases in your area. Hopefully it's not their zone.

Fighter sweeps between two fighting bases. Try to work your way behind their base and  fight there for awhile. Helps your guys get a little closer. Once they are there use them to help cap and take the base.


Go bomber hunting. Kill everything that gets in your way, hard deck 7k. First one below is a loser.



Avoid mindless furballs

[BnZs]

The service ceiling of the B-17 is 35K.

No, 30K is not normal operations. B24s could not fly higher than 27K according to one report. B17s could barely fly at 30K but operationally did not as much as "some" on these forums claim.

The difference was the flexible design on the B-24, it flexed and warped too much at higher alts/speeds, and was dangerous to fly so high.


But I meant "take off this field, hit that field with intent on taking it" not "take off 200 miles behind enemy lines, go AFK 2 hours, come back in space, bomb with laser precision from orbit, and run away at full speed".

I meant direct missions, not roundabout fight-avoidance missions.

[Krusty]

You people got my other thread locked. Don't hijack this one too.

I'm just going to say BnZs that's like listing the service ceiling of the Ta152: Doesn't mean it can operate at that altitude, it's just written down on paper to impress folks that way.

[Dawger]

The service ceiling of the B-17 is 35K.

That cracks me up. I suspect you don't actually know what service ceiling is. And how difficult flying at altitudes above 30,000 feet actually is.

Maintaining altitude anywhere near service ceiling in the thirties or forties requires a high level of concentration by the pilots without an autopilot. There is no performance to spare. Maintaining a formation would be impossible. You are in coffin corner of the flight envelope, where the margin between critical mach and stall speed is very small.

Today's airplanes are air conditioned comfort. A B17 had the outside breeze blowing in. -70 degrees is darn common in the thirties. -70 with the wind blowing would make life as a waist gunner short and unpleasant. Right now, over Houston, the temperature at 34,000 is -54 F.

And we won't even discuss what running a radial engine at full power for several hours would do to it, especially trying to climb to high altitudes.

To imagine that the B17 regularly operated above 25,000 feet in large formations, heavily loaded is to be ignorant or just ignore the realities of such operations. All of the performance figures for best range and speed for the B17 are at 25,000 feet. That means performance dropped off above that altitude. And that is a brand new airplane with fresh motors. A few hundred hours of service and the airplane will not perform to book numbers anymore.

Most raids were in the high teens and low twenties for altitude.

[BnZs]

See Rule #4

[Dawger]

That's okay Dawger...you don't have to climb to 30K to shoot down those buffs...you can just shoot their wreckage as they're spiraling down...after all, that is the sort of thing you do, isn't it?

All the response this love muffinery deserves.

Yes....I am quite well known for shooting wreckage. In fact, I suspect 98.92 percent of every kill I ever got credit for was shooting wreckage. I've written extensively on proper techniques to employ when shooting wreckage.

And on the subject of service ceiling "love muffinery" why don't you explain service ceiling to us ignorant folk. I wait with bated breath.