Author Topic: Bring On The DORA  (Read 3106 times)

Offline Creamo

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« on: October 23, 2000, 11:32:00 AM »
The next plane MUST be the Dora. If you think about it, it solves every Golly-geen problem in the game. Really-

1.The Luftwhiners can’t possibly whine anymore. They get a real good late war fighter. What’s wrong with that? They STILL will go to high ALT and dive past you, climb, and do it all over again. The DORA just blows by faster, who cares? Anyone patient enough to fly the German iron has my sympathy. Only thing that worries me about 190’s is if Im going to get caught off guard in a furball, or Ill miss the snap shot and they will extend away into oblivion.

2.It will take the focus off of the C hog which is a really mediocre plane, with super cannons. If you get caught (in a aircraft) by a C Hog and can’t beat him, he’s better than you by A LOT, or you made a huge error. They stink, and you cant see out of them either. I GO AFTER Chogs, not run away. Keep em ABOVE you, your in biznus.

3.The special events, dogfight challenges, and leagues wont sound like a bunch of kids in a sandbox fighting over a tonka toy. The LW’s wont try to change all the rules for ceilings, ALT, and loadouts to make any advantage the Allies had away, so everything is unrealistically equal. Give em the Dora, go at it. No excuses.

4.RAM will have no excuse to be sad for ANY reason. Even if he sees on CNN that 12 people in Moline, Iowa got food poisoning at a corn boil hog roast and are hospitalized, he’ll find the character to carry on.

5.HTC will get free pizza.

6. I hear they can catch a Runstang. Whooohooo!

Have a nice day.


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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2000, 12:07:00 PM »
Lot of people will be VERY disappointed when 190d9 comes  
mark my words...


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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2000, 01:42:00 PM »
Whines calling for the Spit XIV will (rightly) increase.

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2000, 01:44:00 PM »
Yep Fd-Ski your probably right, especially if they don't get MW50.

Then we will hear the cries of "Anti-Luftwaffe Conspiracy", and the moans of "We Want the Me262/Me163 NOW! or we can't be competitive", or "Our guns are less powerful.. WAAAAhhhhhhh".

Whiners will be whiners no matter if they get what they want or not. They thrive to complain.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2000, 01:50:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Vermillion:
Yep Fd-Ski your probably right, especially if they don't get MW50.


Its my only concern. And it should have MW50. I dont have numbers (noone has them in this matter),but ALL the references I have read said that **MOST**, if not **nearly all** Fw190D9s available for it, were fitted with MW50, if not from factory, in retrofittings in fields.

So D9, to be realistic, must have MW50 boost.


On the dissapointed thing, I wont be dissapointed with it. I expect a decent climber, good accelerating ,very good rolling ,faster Fw190A8. I dont turnfight A8s. So I wont turnfight D9s.

I love Fw190A8, so I will love much more Fw190D9 (with MW50).  


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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2000, 03:09:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by RAM:
 
Its my only concern. And it should have MW50. I dont have numbers (noone has them in this matter),but ALL the references I have read said that **MOST**, if not **nearly all** Fw190D9s available for it, were fitted with MW50, if not from factory, in retrofittings in fields.

So D9, to be realistic, must have MW50 boost.


On the dissapointed thing, I wont be dissapointed with it. I expect a decent climber, good accelerating ,very good rolling ,faster Fw190A8. I dont turnfight A8s. So I wont turnfight D9s.

I love Fw190A8, so I will love much more Fw190D9 (with MW50).    


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Sorry, unit production for making the MW50 system was switched over to make Ostwinds. You'll have to do without  


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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2000, 03:32:00 PM »
Most 190s and 109s didnt have MW50/GM1 either yet they have it in AH, why wouldn't D9 have it?

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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2000, 03:36:00 PM »
only one LW plane has MW50 in AH, and that is G10, a plane that had MW50 as standard factory equipment in WWII. I dont know of any plane in AH that was GM1 (A8 has the boost override, still it is no MW50)

Pyro in Wb modelled a non-MW50 D9...




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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2000, 06:17:00 PM »
Dont argue already about a MW50 something or nother... Im not sure whats going on there with engine varients, but its a obvious LW real advanced thingy. It must make it faster, blah blah. Super, bolt it on.

Whatever, make sure though, that any other late war Dora feature is included to nullify any possible whines or future wants(read NEEDS)...errr, whatever.

Bring this sucka to the MA HTC. The thoughts of wasting these things and reducing the BBS to real issues is pretty enticing.

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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2000, 08:44:00 PM »
I really don't see many D9 threads, compared to F4U-C, ostwind, gangbang threads.

LW needs a JABO 190 with lotsa egg more than the D9. But, if the D9 is just a bit better than the A8, it'll be good to have.

If ya think chog is mediocre creamo, ya should try flying the A5 or A8. A5 is quite good, but outperformed at all alts but very low by the F4UC.

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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2000, 11:02:00 PM »
 
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Dont argue already about a MW50 something or nother... Im not sure whats going on there with engine varients, but its a obvious LW real advanced thingy. It must make it faster, blah blah. Super, bolt it on.

Whatever, make sure though, that any other late war Dora feature is included to nullify any possible whines or future wants(read NEEDS)...errr, whatever.

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MW50 was a boost system of 4 10 minute charges of methanol-water injection to the engine.  You were able to use them sequentially but it was not encouraged because it generally required an engine rebuild/change out once you returned to the field.  I am unsure if you could stop the injection once it started since I have never found any reference to that in several attempts searching for it.

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2000, 11:53:00 PM »
Whatever.

Pour Methonal into it, I dont care.

(We used to pre-charge MetroIII Garret TPE331 engines with a shot of it and watch the flames pour out at start up. Mean stuff actually.)


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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2000, 12:51:00 AM »
A whiner who did good in A-8 will rule in D-9.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2000, 01:06:00 AM »
RAMmel said:

 
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Pyro in Wb modelled a non-MW50 D9...

Nope, it had MW 50 for sure.  Wells did some really nice test charts and they showed the same performance as RLM MW 50 stats.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2000, 01:35:00 AM »
<slowly opening the door...>

screaming : GIVE US THE LA7 ! (or the YAK 9UT  )

<slaming the door and running out really fast...>
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