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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2009, 05:55:15 PM »
what car you got mate? this is mine, 97 mr2 turbo, tho Im rebuilding the engine for to increase the power from 360 -400ish BHP, hopefully in time for some sprints and time events in the summer. what car you got? you dont need to grow up at 28 lol! theres some guy whos 60 in the GTR ownerslcub who has a 700bhp R34 GTR.


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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2009, 07:10:49 PM »
When Chrysler gets itself sorted out, they were considering whether or not to build this little beastie.. It would be on the JK Wrangler Unlimited chassis. Wrangler sales, by the way, are up 17% over 2008.



Lets see a Taco do this....  ;)







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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2009, 07:20:58 PM »
I can cruise at 75mph with almost 0 wind or road noise, have a smooth comfortable ride, have about as many mechanical problems as an anvil, and get 20mpg... lets see a jeep do that.

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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2009, 07:34:21 PM »
For fencing work we used a Toyota Hilux for years. Best truck i ever drove. Very durable, the TV show Top Gear famously threw a hilux off a mulitstory building and still managed to start the engine and make it run afterwards. Its cheap, very practical for carrying tools and materials, plus women love a man who feels like king of the road more than a mini cooper driver. :)
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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2009, 08:07:48 PM »
I can cruise at 75mph with almost 0 wind or road noise, have a smooth comfortable ride, have about as many mechanical problems as an anvil, and get 20mpg... lets see a jeep do that.

You don't buy a Wrangler for its road manners anymore than you would buy a Harley for its weather proofing. You buy a Wrangler because as delivered, it's the most capable off road vehicle you can find in a new car showroom at any price.

That said, I have not had a single warranty issue whatsoever with my 2008. Flawless to date. I also manage just over 25 mpg on the highway. I can install the 3-piece Freedom hard top for winter, and the soft top for warmer weather. Top down, on the beach just after sunrise is great fun.

If you haven't driven a newer Wrangler JK series, you would be shocked at the refinement. Compared to the previous TJ series (production ended with 2006 model year), it's like comparing a Cadillac to a Chevy. This is my third Jeep (previously owned a '63 CJ-5 and a '92 YJ Wranger) and it is so much better than the '92 it's difficult to express.

There's nothing wrong with the double-cab Taco. It's a fine pickup. Reliable, well built, great resale and offers terrific utility. Granted, the Taco is a bit overdue for an update, but it's still a great truck. It's all about what you want to do with it. Yours is great for daily use. It isn't set up for anything beyond mild off road use, but that's perfectly ok for most Taco owners (those side steps wouldn't survive a moderately tough trail).

If I needed a mid-size pickup, I'd look at Toyota first. Then probably Suzuki, as they sell a rebranded Nissan Frontier, but with a much better warranty than Nissan offers.

I bought a Wrangler (2 dr) because I have no kids in the house now, and I wanted something for me that could go anywhere, anytime and do so without a roof or doors should the weather be nice. Nothing else on four wheels can do that.

If Chrysler builds the JT pickup in the future, I might consider one.

Funny story... My wife and I were touring the Poconos last September. The weather was warm and we wanted to drive to Jim Thorp, PA for breakfast. So, I took down the top and removed both doors. We were staying in a Comfort Inn. As I walked to the elevator with each door, the looks I got from patrons in the breakfast room was priceless. I had stopped at the desk and asked if they would mind if I stored the doors in our room. The manager laughed and said sure, it would be ok. "We get groups of Jeepers in here all the time."

Cruising along in the crisp mountain early morning air, top down, doors off, was marvelous.


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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2009, 08:33:05 PM »
Widewing, That is bee u tee full! I would prefer a little more seating though.

Own a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 164k miles on it. Still running strong although I have put some work into lately, new window motor and new tie rod ends. She's paid off though. God love it.
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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2009, 08:40:35 PM »
You don't buy a Wrangler for its road manners anymore than you would buy a Harley for its weather proofing.


that was all that needed to be said right there  :lol


Wranglers are among the best "out of the box" offroad ready vehicles..  but considering this comes at the cost of virtually everything else the "value" you get from them is meh.. they are very specialized, a absolute blast off road in the mud and rocks, pull back onto paved roads and they are among the most horrid vehicles to daily drive..   rough bellybutton ride, few amenities, piss poor gas mileage, hideous wind noise. etc etc .  driving one 100 miles on the highway in one stretch should qualify a person for some sort of iron man award.






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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2009, 02:45:08 AM »
that was all that needed to be said right there  :lol


Wranglers are among the best "out of the box" offroad ready vehicles..  but considering this comes at the cost of virtually everything else the "value" you get from them is meh.. they are very specialized, a absolute blast off road in the mud and rocks, pull back onto paved roads and they are among the most horrid vehicles to daily drive..   rough bellybutton ride, few amenities, piss poor gas mileage, hideous wind noise. etc etc .  driving one 100 miles on the highway in one stretch should qualify a person for some sort of iron man award.

With older Wranglers, I would agree. My YJ was a rough ride. My CJ-5 was heavily modified. Body lift, suspension lift, dual steering dampers, 36" Cepeks and roll cage. A Turbo Buick was stuffed under the hood. It was a torturous vehicle to drive for more than a few hours at a time.

However, the new JK Wranglers are different animals altogether. With the hard top installed it's quiet, very quiet. A smooth 3.8 liter V6 offers decent power and proven reliability. Handling is vastly better than the YJ and TJ. The interior is roomy, very well appointed and comfortable. We've driven it for an entire day, and we were no more fatigued than if we had driven our Japanese sedan. The new JKs are more capable both off and on the road. They are extremely agile, being very maneuverable with a very small turning circle and quick steering ratio.

Stop by a dealer and take one for a test drive. You will be shocked at how refined they are.

My Wrangler gets better fuel mileage than a V6 Taco (I average 24.8 mpg on the highway using cruise control). I have a terrific sound system (6 CD changer with 6 speakers and subwoofer). I have power steering, 8 way adjustable seats, A/C, full console, four airbags, rear wiper/washer, fully carpeted, leather wrapped steering wheel, Cruise Control, trip/mileage computer, and you can order power windows, driving lamps, remote starting, power entry/alarm, Nav system, dual zone climate control and many other amenities.

Wranglers have 4 wheel, power disk brakes with ABS and Brake Assist. They are equipped with ESP, roll mitigation, traction control and hill assist. You can order locker Dana 44 axles, Trac-Loc, Tru-Lok, 4:10 gears with crawl ratio transfer case. All JK Wranglers have Brake Lock Differentials. If you think that the 2 door Wrangler rides a bit choppy, buy the 4 door on the extended wheelbase.


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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2009, 09:23:57 AM »
The 05 and later tacomas are much larger inside and out than the previous year models.  I'm 6"1 and I fit with no problems whatsoever.

LMFAO.   The Tacoma isn't even a full size truck (ripping on the F-150) and you will now (if you bought a used one) have to possibly deal with frame rust issues.  Which leads one to this, if a frame cannot be manufactured properly.   "What else did they cut corners on?"   



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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2009, 09:29:25 AM »
that was all that needed to be said right there  :lol


Wranglers are among the best "out of the box" offroad ready vehicles..  but considering this comes at the cost of virtually everything else the "value" you get from them is meh.. they are very specialized, a absolute blast off road in the mud and rocks, pull back onto paved roads and they are among the most horrid vehicles to daily drive..   rough bellybutton ride, few amenities, piss poor gas mileage, hideous wind noise. etc etc .  driving one 100 miles on the highway in one stretch should qualify a person for some sort of iron man award.

Where do you get your information from?    Sure the 93-06 Wranglers were not fun on the highway because they were leaf-sprung.   But the 97-Up TJ's and JK's are coil sprung and VERY WELL MANNERED on the highway.

You seem to be the type that already KNOWS what he wants, but would rather get the peanut gallery's opinions and flame them.   

I daily drove a 1983 CJ7 for two years on the highway, surface streets with no issues.   It was a soft ride and not choppy.   If some of your friends have that issue, they bought cheap sh*t and "you get what you for."   I now have a 95 Grand Cherokee with a 3" lift and have had it up to 80mph on the freeway, with no issues, ride quality is superior.   

My buddy's 97 Wrangler has a 6.5" Long Arm lift on 35's.   It is very smooth and will rival whatever "Toyota" you purchase.    For the record, if you're looking at "ride comfort from a pickup", buy a car.   You buy a pickup because you haul sh*t, nothing more.   
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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2009, 09:32:29 AM »
I can cruise at 75mph with almost 0 wind or road noise, have a smooth comfortable ride, have about as many mechanical problems as an anvil, and get 20mpg... lets see a jeep do that.

How much is your wager?   I get more than that on the freeway in my Grand Cherokee.   
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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2009, 10:34:51 AM »
Don't bother with those "namby-pamby `lil boy trucks...get yourself a REAL "in-yer-face" truck!  My neighbors hate noisy trucks..so, I bought 2, loud, stinky, noisy, diesel trucks....a Ford King Ranch for me and a Dodge 3500 LARAMIE, QUAD CAB, for my wife. :devil

Oh yeah, these trucks will work the "nuts" off those other  "namby-pamby `lil boy trucks.  :P

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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2009, 11:24:00 AM »
When Chrysler gets itself sorted out, they were considering whether or not to build this little beastie.. It would be on the JK Wrangler Unlimited chassis. Wrangler sales, by the way, are up 17% over 2008.

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Lets see a Taco do this....  ;)

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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2009, 03:29:27 PM »
That is one seriously cool JEEP. I traded my '06 Wrangler in on an '07 Magnum R/T because (despite being 1000 pounds heavier) the HEMI wagon gets way better mileage than the V-6 in the Wrangler.  :rolleyes:  If they put the HEMI in it, bye bye Magnum.  :)

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Re: Considering buying a new car..
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2009, 04:53:26 PM »
hey, ya know what?

I wanna get one of these!!!!!!

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