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Offline Tom5572

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Help with a 3v1
« on: April 26, 2009, 05:13:11 PM »
I would appreciate any feed back I could get on this, thanks
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Offline StokesAk

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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 05:44:58 PM »
#1: You didn't do bad at all.
#2: I would have HOed the back
#3: When they all climb up to you, you should have WEPed and rolled over and pulled up very again.
#4: When they were extending you could have gained some seperation and revesed them all at the same time.
#5: I was amazed how many bullets the F6F that had a feul leak took, he should have died.
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 05:47:25 PM »
Thanks, I opted more for trying to avoid the ho against the f6fs because of how fragile the spixteen is.
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 06:20:34 PM »
You did great Tom!   :salute  Amazing...they outnumbered you 3-1 and every one of them tried to Ho you, sometimes 2 at once.
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 06:52:59 PM »
You did great, I think the fight may have gone the other way had they all avoiding HOin ya  :mad:

The one thing I would say is had you been more aggressive on the first F6 you would have finished him off before the others got there. ON the first merge you knew the second F6 was 3k out and going away. When the first followed you up as soon as he stopped firing and you could see him start to roll over you should have ruddered over had and gone after him BEFORE he could recover enough speed to maneuver again, which is why you missed the shot when you finally did come down.

Then you would have been 1 vs 2 and you could have pushed a bit harder to finish them off.

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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 06:55:25 PM »
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     I did not think of that, I have always had a problem with the rope and I think it is me trying to push it too far, thanks for that comment.  That helps a lot.
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 07:23:28 PM »
The one thing I would say is had you been more aggressive

Oh yea, even though you will take hits and loose parts, you have to keep pushing them, if you at D400 and there i one on your 6 don't turn off. He will proably turn and evade and the one behind you won't be able to sustain a turn with you, after that you finish off the 1st one and move on to the 2nd.
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 08:00:13 PM »
You had the e advantage for the most part. You should have done a spiral climb when they tried to follow you up, tightening your turn as they closed. Just when they were starting to wallow & were hanging like kites, roll in & pop them.  :rock
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Re: Help with a 3v1
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 07:50:52 PM »
You began with a comfortable 1v3 and managed to turn it into a decidedly unhappy 3v1. The difference between a 1v3 and a 3v1 is in who is controlling the fight.

All you had to do was stay above the F6Fs... Easy to do. You missed two relatively easy kill opportunities, which I'm sure had you swearing beneath your breath (we've all missed similar shots, so you're not alone by any stretch).

You had several opportunities to drag at least two of them up into a classic "rope". However, rather than simply continue up, you short-circuited the process by looping back over with the Hellcats only 1k or less below you. They would have stalled first....

This is a set-up that I relish when flying an A-20. I get several fighters trying to climb up to me, figuring they have an advantage. They don't, because the A-20 zoom climbs as good or better than any fighter. Up and down I go till they are either all dead or enlightened to their problem and dive away.

Next time, use you altitude to your advantage. Stay on the perch, lure them up, and when they stall, drop in and kill them. Fight up hill, not down. The strength of the Spit16 is its vertical performance, use it.

Own the vertical, own the fight.


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