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Offline budika

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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 12:03:54 PM »
The same way as repairing damage works, park on rearm pad and say "custom loadout" over range vox.  Gotta articulate clearly enough for the vox translator to catch the command.

ah-HA! now there's the rub. I don't yet have a head-set, so I can't talk to the critter that way. Although now you've given me even more reason to get myself into the doghouse with the wife. What would you recommend?
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 12:06:24 PM »
Ok... you've got me curious. someone suggested that I'd already made those changes to the aircraft; I wasn't aware that this was possible, but if it is possible, how does one go about doing this?

They are just pulling your chain, there isn't anyway to change the game like that.

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As for taking a round in the back of the head: how many pony jocks can actually recall taking damage to that area of the aircraft given it's current performance the manner in which most P-51 drivers use the aircraft while attacking an opponent? I for one, when flying this fighter don't like to get myself caught up in a slow turning fight this the P-51. It's gifts are much better utilized when E is greater, rather than download fur-balling. Over all the P-51 is not a good fur-balling aircraft and bleeds off energy quickly at low alt turn and burn fights. Unlike the Spit, Hurricane and assorted Japanese fighters who's endowments allow for close-quarter, slow turn-and-burn fur-balling.

While watching Dogfights on the History Channel I believe I heard of a "late" war version that had considerable upgrades - don't think 20 mil canons were part of the package - but it definitely had much improved visibility due to the change in the canopy configuration allowing for an almost 360 degree clear view, whereas the model D in the game does not. There is a blind spot and in my experience, most going up against 109's it's a lethal blind spot.

The 51 is a great furball machine, and can surprise many with how it does turn if flown well. Don't get suckered into believeing its only a BnZ type aircraft. View is about the best in the game, as long as you adjust the head position and save it.

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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2009, 12:15:33 PM »
 :o  Guess there's one born every minute.  :salute
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2009, 12:26:42 PM »
Yeah just pulling your leg Budika.  Pass it on ;)

We just may see the 51H.  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,26277.0.html
Note that e.g. the 47N only showed up 5 years later.. And they may have changed their plans since that poll was suggested, so take it with a grain of salt.. But the 51H, 47M, and Yak9UT are the only three out of eleven missing.
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2009, 12:48:09 PM »
Yeah just pulling your leg Budika.  Pass it on ;)

We just may see the 51H.  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,26277.0.html
Note that e.g. the 47N only showed up 5 years later.. And they may have changed their plans since that poll was suggested, so take it with a grain of salt.. But the 51H, 47M, and Yak9UT are the only three out of eleven missing.

well... this much I know. Since I'm only 3 months old in the game I've learned that flying a spit it's easy to kill a P-51, but if I'm flying a P-51 those spits are a bugger to kill - sometimes. I think my biggest problem is a tend to over-steer (heavy handed on the stick and forget to use throttle and flaps with the pony as much as I should). Since I can't use flaps above 120 on a spit I've learned to use the throttle very effectively. The only aircraft then that gives me fits is the Corsair which is an excellent slow TnB fighter that can use throttle and flaps like the mustang, but has a much slower stall speed. I can't fly the blasted corsair cause I can stinkin see outa the darned thing. But I LOVE killin them!   :t
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 12:48:58 PM »
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- change in cockpit
   * removal of view-blocking armored back head rest

Just to ask, do you know you can modify and set custom views for your hat switch - so that your aft view does not face directly back into the headrest ??

(or get Track IR and solve the problem from a different direction)

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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2009, 12:57:07 PM »
Budika head positions can be modified by holding down each one, moving the head position with arrows and pgup/pgdn, and then pressing F10 to save that position.  Fwd view can be modified as well, effectively making it a second view position (no buttons pressed looks forward too, and that too can be modified the same way)

The clearest advantage that the 51 holds against the spitfire is its agility at high speed and ability to hold that higher speed much more easily. In this respect it's a lot like the 190 - it's at its best flying fast.
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2009, 01:08:18 PM »
Just to ask, do you know you can modify and set custom views for your hat switch - so that your aft view does not face directly back into the headrest ??

(or get Track IR and solve the problem from a different direction)

quite aware. I usually look over my right shoulder... not sure why that is; probably because I'm right-handed I s'pose. It's just that the headrest in the P-51 and especially in the Corsair really bugs the crap outa me. I hate having a blind-spot.
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 01:10:31 PM »
Budika head positions can be modified by holding down each one, moving the head position with arrows and pgup/pgdn, and then pressing F10 to save that position.  Fwd view can be modified as well, effectively making it a second view position (no buttons pressed looks forward too, and that too can be modified the same way)

The clearest advantage that the 51 holds against the spitfire is its agility at high speed and ability to hold that higher speed much more easily. In this respect it's a lot like the 190 - it's at its best flying fast.

Indeed you're correct. The bane of my AH existence is the BF109 though. I hate those miserable little fly-like creatures with a passion and get great, immense, overwhelming joy when I kill one.  :rock
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 01:29:46 PM »
Yeah just pulling your leg Budika.  Pass it on ;)

We just may see the 51H.  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,26277.0.html
Note that e.g. the 47N only showed up 5 years later.. And they may have changed their plans since that poll was suggested, so take it with a grain of salt.. But the 51H, 47M, and Yak9UT are the only three out of eleven missing.

Honestly, don't know why the P-51H was even mentioned in that poll.  Came too late to see any action in WW2, which alone would disqualify itself from being added to the planeset.


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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 01:48:13 PM »
Because it's a fun plane AKAK :)  Same reason you'd get a kick out of a borderline post-war or rare field mod 38 model.
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2009, 02:01:30 PM »
While watching Dogfights on the History Channel I believe I heard of a "late" war version that had considerable upgrades - don't think 20 mil canons were part of the package - but it definitely had much improved visibility due to the change in the canopy configuration allowing for an almost 360 degree clear view, whereas the model D in the game does not. There is a blind spot and in my experience, most going up against 109's it's a lethal blind spot.
The P51D has among the best visibility in the game, due to it's bubble canopy (which is probably what they were talking about with dogfights, who knows though with the amount of research they did with that show, or lack thereof). The problem you're encountering is the head armor. You can use the arrow keys/page up+page down to maneuver your rear snap view into a better position to see around the plate, and then press F10 to save that position.

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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2009, 02:30:48 PM »
Aaaaaaaah... I didn't know you could move vertically on that. I thought I was only about to move from side to side and that was it. Unless of course you're pulling this noob's leg as an earlier poster was.

I shall have to check this.

At any rate I would love to see the next version, after the D, of the Mustang in the game.
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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2009, 02:32:45 PM »
Aaaaaaaah... I didn't know you could move vertically on that. I thought I was only about to move from side to side and that was it. Unless of course you're pulling this noob's leg as an earlier poster was.

I shall have to check this.

At any rate I would love to see the next version, after the D, of the Mustang in the game.
I'm pretty sure the D was the last model used in WWII. I know the H version was built but never got to the front in time.

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Re: P-51 E
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2009, 02:33:19 PM »
At any rate I would love to see the next version, after the D, of the Mustang in the game.

You won't, the D was the last version to see combat in any war, let alone WWII. And unless it saw combat before the end of WWII, it's exempt from ever being added.

Unless they decide to add a few planes from the Korean War, in which case the P-51 is still SOL.
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