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Re: Eastern Front
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 03:40:04 AM »
just some add on's

1.Introduction
    a.   Pavlov’s house
           i.   A description as if you were the solider, a day in the life
    b.   Breif description of overall eastern front
           i.   Casualties
          ii.   Berlin-Stalingrad-Berlin
         iii.   1941-45
2.Background
    a.   Molotov- Ribbentrop Pact
           i.   1939
          ii.   Non- aggression pact
    b.   German Attacks
          despite information from his spy network from both germany and japan and despite a German soldiers defections to Russia with information regarding the emanate attack Stalin refused to believe germany was going to invade thus Stalin failed to transfer troops and equipment into the region in advance with time to build a defense
          i.   June 22nd 1941
          ii.   Hitler’s orders
3.Summer 1941
    a.   Germans attack
           i.   Operation Barbosa Barbarossa
          ii.   Germans make a big push into Russia
    b.   Autumn
          i.   Germans continue push to Moscow
                      1.   They were not prepared for a city battle, trained for fast forward movment not street fighting
                      2.   There was no major battle outside of Moscow because the germans were exhausted form pointless battles, pointless transport, and strung out supply lines Hitler ordered them to wait out the winter until the spring offensive, by which time Hitler assumed that stalingrad would have fallen and the soldiers committed there would move up to aid in the push for moscow
4.Winter 1941
     a.   Germans are pushed back from Moscow
     b.   Russians were fresh
           i.   These troops were stationed over on the east coast in expectation of Japanese attack that never happened
          ii.   This attack could have helped the germans
    c.   Russians were better equipped
           i.   Reinforced with the new t34 tanks and kaytusha rocket artillery
          ii.   Proper winter clothing   
         iii.   Even several ski batallions
    d.   Germans were not prepared or supplied for the winter German weapons would freeze preventing them from firing Russians did not suffer from this problem, this was due to the gun oil used
           i.   No winter gear,  exhausted and freezing suffering from malnutrition s well. even after a doctor managed to get the food supplies corrected and improved many more men fell ill or died because their bodies were so malnourished that the food, when it came, actually killed them. this happened because their systems couldn't properly process the food. this affliction has a name but i cant remember it
5. Summer of 1942
    a.   Germans push south towards the don and Volga rivers aswell as the oilfields near caucasus to the south
           i.   Plan was origonaly to secure the rivers then the oilfields near caucasus but Hitlers vanity caused him to order both be taken simultaneously, stretching his forces thinner
    b.   Reach Stalingrad
          i.   First attacked with and under strength army and by the time the Germans were reinforced the Russians had already stiffened their defenses it was not so much that the German army as under-strengthed, it was the tactics employed. instead of concentrating and attacking from the industrial section and sweeping southward to the residential section of the city paulous chose to attack into the center of the city and then spread out in all directions from there leaving the factories to continue producing weapons and tanks throughout the battle as well s miring his forces into a building by building fight that consumed time and resources on a pointless goal. paulous also failed to send troops further down river to make a crossing and then come back behind the defenders securing the opposite bank and cutting off the supply line that fed  and reequipped the Russian army through out the fight
    c.   Big mistake because they split and thinned the army instead of pushing into Moscow
6.Winter of 1942
    a.   Stalingrad
           i.   Germans had left the surrounding area to a Romanian division which was unsuited to hold the bridges the Italians that were present and assigned to guard the flanks also crumbled with almost no resistance
          ii.   The Russians took hold of these bridges, amassed a force and attacked by surrounding the city and pushing forward
                      1.   Trapped 300k German soldiers in the city Hitler demanded that the army stay put and refused to allow a break out action of any kind
                      2.   Germans tried to counter attack over a month after the initial Russian offensive began, but still within the grip of winter, this gave the Russians plenty of time and all of the advantages necessary to build a defensive perimeter to block the German attackto reach the soldiers stuck in the city, but couldn't get close for about a month, by which time the soldiers were to exhausted and starving to break out towards the German lines
                      3.   The counter attack was stopped short 65km short of Stalingrad mostly due to freezing men and equipmentand was flanked by Russian forces who destroyed a large number of supply transport aircraft, further damaging the German supply lines
         iii.   Took the city back
                      1.   The remaining 90k troops surrendered
         iv.   Hitler Pulled back over the Don in order to save those forces
   b.   Second R-S Offensive
   c.   Push back most of German summer advance
7.Summer of 1943
    a.   Hitler defers planning to the German generals
    b.   Germans push to kursk
           i.   Heavily defeded, very little ground gained, heavy casualties this is the biggest propaganda BS of the war. if you wanna stay politically correct then stick with what you have, if you wanna a little more truthful insight try reading this http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-kursk-germanys-lost-victory-in-world-war-ii.htm
8.Autumn and winter of 1943
   a.   Russians make major ground back, heading towards Germany
9.1944-1945
   a.   Russians push into Germany, take Berlin
10.   Conclusion


its not finished and sorry bout the messy outline, it didnt transfer well form mw, thanks again


ell thats all i got for the moment. you got a good outline started, just make sure you remember to flesh it out with some quotes from the ground soldiers who were there to get the feel of the horror they experienced
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Re: Eastern Front
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2009, 04:59:40 AM »
Thank you Floatsom  :salute this is some great information, and i certainly will, I will be finishing up the outline later to include everything, ill repost is then
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Re: Eastern Front
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2009, 05:56:16 AM »
There was also treatment of the citizens in the occupied areas.  Ukraine first heralded the Germans as liberators but soon turned against the occupiers after their intent was realized.  This caused the Germans to allocate much needed resources for the front to protect their rear supply lines against partisans.


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True. Bloodlust doesn't make you many friends.
In some areas though, the Germans did not have that much problems with the population. Valid point none the less and enters the trouble with the cauldron battles. Since the Russians soon realized there would be no nice terms, they would fight to the death. After a certain point, there was not so much surrender.
Did you guys see enemy at the gates? I remember the german propoganda blurting out "surrender and you will be treated well". Didn't work well though...
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