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Offline stodd

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2009, 03:58:19 PM »
Quote from: Belial on May 02, 2009, 12:24:23 AM
There is nothing wrong with Sherman perk price, it is as soft as a panzer and if I spend 15 perks on  a Sherman and some IL2 dweeb kills me I will be royally PO'd.

I know your thinking but BeLial the Tiger can be killed by IL2 too, boo on you only experienced IL2 strafers know the trick to the high angle Tiger pop.



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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2009, 04:37:09 PM »
Just was curious again...

In tour 111, the il-2 was credited with 2.7% of all Sherman VC losses, and 3.52% of all Tiger losses.

Il2 K/D vs Sherman VC 1.01
Il2 K/D vs Tiger 0.49
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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2009, 10:14:56 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on May 02, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
Yea I think people forgot what M00t said at first, never was saying Tigr wasnt best but that it just had too high of perk price to it, which I would have to agree seeing that the K/D ratio Stodd posted is almost 1:1...... :salute

What is the k/d ratio of the 262? I would think a lot of people die in tigers because they are bomb magnets more than anything else.
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Offline sethipus

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2009, 11:27:14 PM »
We must keep in mind that just because someone is credited with a kill doesn't mean they actually killed it for real.  Think M8 vs. Tiger.  Do you really think very many people in M8s actually outright killed Tigers this tour?  I don't.  I would bet that far more people in M8s got credit for that Tiger than actually blew it up.  And the same goes for the T34/76 vs. the Tiger and other matchups.

Heck, just look at the LA-7 vs. the Tiger and you'll probably see what I mean.  ;-)
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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2009, 11:38:40 PM »
Quote from: E25280 on May 02, 2009, 02:13:46 PM
I'll disagree that perks for anything should come down.

Perk rides are perked precisely to keep them rare compared to the non-perked rides.  Right now the Sherman is anything but rare due to it's very low perk cost.

I say, increase the cost of them all.

I agree...  In fact, increase the perk cost for ALL perked planes/vehicles...  Make perkies actually valuable!  I'm certainly a poor (at best) AH2 player, and yet I currently have tons of perkies to spend.  The only perked ride I even think about is the 262, all other perked rides are so insignificant that I don't consider the cost.  Raise the perk cost on everything, I say!
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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2009, 12:12:21 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on April 29, 2009, 03:04:16 PM
Tiger's price is fine.  Firefly's is way too low.

Seems HTC has always been afraid to really perk certain vehicles. Either do it, or make 'em free.
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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2009, 12:18:16 AM »
Quote from: thndregg on May 03, 2009, 12:12:21 AM
Seems HTC has always been afraid to really perk certain vehicles. Either do it, or make 'em free.

I agree.  Make a perked ride costly, or it really doesn't matter at all.
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Offline LCCajun

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2009, 02:58:44 PM »
I was in a Tiger the other day I got a good side shot on a sherman it didn't do any damage. The sherman shot me once and killed me. I think something needs to be done.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2009, 06:59:18 PM »
Quote from: LCCajun on May 03, 2009, 02:58:44 PM
I was in a Tiger the other day I got a good side shot on a sherman it didn't do any damage. The sherman shot me once and killed me. I think something needs to be done.
The model is not nearly so simple that you can describe it like that and claim it needs looking at.

Firefly's perks should be 20-25ish and Tiger I's should be 30-35ish.
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Offline BigKev03

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2009, 07:51:22 PM »
Based on the following numbers I would support a steep increase in the number of perks for the M4.  The total number of shermans produced in WWII was around 2200 vehicles.  In each British armored platoon on 1 in 4 tanks was a firefly.  Total number of Tigers produced in WWII was 1355 vehicles.  That being I say the perks for a Tiger are sufficent.  However, if you used the vehicle production number as a starting poing for perks then I would say the M4 should start out at no les than 15 perks.  That would be normally half the cost of a Tiger.  In addition, I think there needs to be some change to the damage model.  Like another poster said, I dont know how many times I hit an M4 broadside with shot from a Tiger and nothing happens only to be killed by the M4.  Of course I have adjsuted tactics and started shooting long range.  But something needs to change.

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2009, 08:20:22 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 03, 2009, 06:59:18 PM
The model is not nearly so simple that you can describe it like that and claim it needs looking at.

Firefly's perks should be 20-25ish and Tiger I's should be 30-35ish.
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Offline Belial

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Re: Tiger's perk price
« Reply #56 on: May 03, 2009, 10:46:20 PM »
And m8's should be 15 perks because I can sneak up and kill panzers and m4's which is so devious it surely should be perked.
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