Spit vs Hurri

[MachFly]

i'd take the spit 1 over it anyday,  I wouldn't be seen dead in a Hurricane.  They be watermelon planes. 

finally someone who agrees with me

[CAP1]

A few days ago TBone posted a mission involving Spitfire mk I and Hurricane mkI. There were 9 people in a hurri and only 2 in a spit.

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Why?
I never actually flown Hurri in combat but from what I heard spitfire is better (historically as least). During the Battle of Britain Spitfires would fight the 109s, and Hurricanes would go after the bombers.

hurricane was a more stable gun platform, more rugged, and turned much better.


the spitfire was pretty though.

[Oldman731]

Total 2008 LW arena numbers:

And here's the problem.  Neither the Spit I nor the Hurri I is a late war airplane.  Using the figures from LW arenas to determine anything at all about the two is Twilight Zone math.  You'll get some sort of success rate out of it, but it has nothing to do with how the planes compare to their contemporaries in the Battle of Britain era.

When compared to the planes they should be compared with, the Hurri I does much better than anecdotal evidence suggests it should.  I think Krusty is right on this one.

- oldman

[Karnak]

the spitfire was pretty though.

And responded more rapidly to the controls.  And was faster.

I also think AH has the Spit modeled too fragile.

[B3YT]

the hurri 1 was a fast plane to roll. many pilots who moved from hurries to spits complained about the sluggish response to stick movement .  the hurri 1 really shines at hi alt too . take it up to 22K (where it would often fly in the BoB) and see a real difference  . again gun placement is very important  a 2 sec burst from a hurri will do much more damage than the spit 1 .

Elevator response is also much better in the hurri . more stable in a high speed dive . holds it E quite well compared to the spit 1 .

I take the hurri 1 every time   

[CAP1]

And responded more rapidly to the controls.  And was faster.

I also think AH has the Spit modeled too fragile.

faster doesn't always win a fight. in here, when i flew them, i didn't feel too much difference in the control response. i could fight much much better in the hurri. it IS agonizingly slow though.

 now, since i know someone is going to start the rl comparisons, i will. if i recall from reading, hurricanes scored more kills than spitfires. in fact, i think you'll find it in another thread somewhere on this bbs.

 i don't fly either of them anymore, unless i REALLY need an ego boost for my cartoon pile-iting skills. they both have "easy buttons" in them.


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[Karnak]

They scored more kills in the Battle of Britain, not in WWII.  The reasons they scored more in the BoB was due to a few factors:

1) There were more than twice as many Hurricanes used in the BoB as Spitfires.
2) Spitfires, whenever possible, were tasked with handling the much harder to shoot down Bf109 while the Hurricanes focused on the bombers.
3) The Hurricane is a better gun platform.

[Lusche]

And here's the problem.  Neither the Spit I nor the Hurri I is a late war airplane.  Using the figures from LW arenas to determine anything at all about the two is Twilight Zone math.  You'll get some sort of success rate out of it, but it has nothing to do with how the planes compare to their contemporaries in the Battle of Britain era.

And that wasn't my intention anyways. It was just to show that the hurri I is being used more, and more successful than the Spit I within the context of the LW arenas.
BTW, the picture is very similar in the EW arenas, though the sample is really small.

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i'd take the spit 1 over it anyday,  I wouldn't be seen dead in a Hurricane.  They be watermelon planes. 

I don't know if you are only referring to Hurri1 or all Hurri's in general?   I would gamble a guess you are talking about all Hurri's, and that is down right sad, the Hurri 2c is one of the deadliest planes in game,  anytime you wanna test the theory that they are "chit planes"  you take what ever you want, I will take the Hurri2c, then you can tell me if they are still "chit planes"

oh wait I remember killin ya in my Hurri quite easy .... never mind.  I need more of a challenge.

[Anaxogoras]

The Hurricane IIC seems deadly mostly because it scavenges off of the medium speed planes that are forced to turn by fast planes.  That, and many don't know how easy it is to beat the Hurri IIC with energy tactics.  But I do like the characterization: "wirbel with wings."

[CAP1]

They scored more kills in the Battle of Britain, not in WWII.  The reasons they scored more in the BoB was due to a few factors:

1) There were more than twice as many Hurricanes used in the BoB as Spitfires.
2) Spitfires, whenever possible, were tasked with handling the much harder to shoot down Bf109 while the Hurricanes focused on the bombers.
3) The Hurricane is a better gun platform.

which would also lead one to assume, that had britain been lacking one or the other, there would have been a different outcome. they complimented each other.

 in the ah world, my preference is the hurri. i do however, frakkin HATE that it is so agonizingly slow

[Ex-jazz]

i do however, frakkin HATE that it is so agonizingly slow

You can't deal with The Slowest fighter AH inventory so, it must have a 'easy button' in it? I'm confused.

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The Hurricane IIC seems deadly mostly because it scavenges off of the medium speed planes that are forced to turn by fast planes.  That, and many don't know how easy it is to beat the Hurri IIC with energy tactics.  But I do like the characterization: "wirbel with wings."

don't know about that, the most killz I get in Hurri are almost always p-51's.   

yup I have heard that before "hurri's are easy to beat"   they are this or that, but in the MA environment when 90% of fights end up on the deck turning, Hurri2C is King.

[CAP1]

You can't deal with The Slowest fighter AH inventory so, it must have a 'easy button' in it? I'm confused.

i can deal with it. it got to the point that the only things that gave me trouble in it were zeeks, other hurris that were flown by better pile-its than myself(which most are), and runners. the last one is why i hate that she's so slow.

[Angus]

don't know about that, the most killz I get in Hurri are almost always p-51's.   

yup I have heard that before "hurri's are easy to beat"   they are this or that, but in the MA environment when 90% of fights end up on the deck turning, Hurri2C is King.

In field defence where everybody is turning and slow-vulching, you can kill anything in a Hurry
Anything, but not anyone. I am still finding it funny how many opposed the hurry being introduced into AH, claiming it would be a hangar queen... Something rugged that turns on a dime with quad Hizooka....no way.