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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #60 on: May 16, 2009, 06:06:06 PM »
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2009, 06:13:45 PM »
I don't agree I would say it would be the DAP MK-21 Beaufighter first as I would think the Beaufighter will see the light of day sooner or later. Granted it is not a true 100% Australian design but if the English versions are to be added it would only make sense to add the most powerful variant to the stable of Beaufighters.

After that the Boomerang & Wirraway would be the only Australian designs that were used in combat to the best of my Knowledge.

Last time I checked the Beufighter was a British aircraft. An Australian produced variant, - fine. But it is no more Australian than the Lancaster and even the Hurricane is Canadian...
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2009, 06:23:22 PM »
Last time I checked the Beufighter was a British aircraft. An Australian produced variant, - fine. But it is no more Australian than the Lancaster and even the Hurricane is Canadian...
OK an Australian designed variant then to be more specific as there were things on the DAP MK-21 Beau that never were designed nor added by the British to their fleet.

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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2009, 07:36:07 AM »
OK an Australian designed variant then to be more specific as there were things on the DAP MK-21 Beau that never were designed nor added by the British to their fleet.

Lyric, I think what we're after is something conceived and designed and built in the country of origin. No matter how you look at it, the beaufighter, even a  variant for SWP conditions is still essentially a British aeroplane. And the Beau X is pretty "similar" to the 21, to be sure there are differences, but none that the average player would notice.

So, like the IAR-80, I think the Boomerang, would be more likely to fit this bill.
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2009, 07:20:12 AM »
Lyric, I think what we're after is something conceived and designed and built in the country of origin. No matter how you look at it, the beaufighter, even a  variant for SWP conditions is still essentially a British aeroplane. And the Beau X is pretty "similar" to the 21, to be sure there are differences, but none that the average player would notice.

So, like the IAR-80, I think the Boomerang, would be more likely to fit this bill.
Well if we are going with a 100% design & build then the Boomerang would be the obvious choice.

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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2009, 02:00:55 PM »
Well if we are going with a 100% design & build then the Boomerang would be the obvious choice.

That thing would be lunchmeat in the MA for all but the best sticks (far beyond me), but I'd fly it once in a while for the novelty alone.  Plus it just looks cool.  Has it ever been modeled in any sim?

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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2009, 02:28:27 PM »
That thing would be lunchmeat in the MA for all but the best sticks (far beyond me), but I'd fly it once in a while for the novelty alone.  Plus it just looks cool.  Has it ever been modeled in any sim?
Very few aircraft left ot be added would not be at a significant disadvantage in the MA, thus that criteria is obsolete.
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2009, 02:34:14 PM »
Very few aircraft left ot be added would not be at a significant disadvantage in the MA, thus that criteria is obsolete.

Makes sense.  I guess the P-39 addition sort of illustrated that. 

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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2009, 07:20:07 PM »
Very few aircraft left ot be added would not be at a significant disadvantage in the MA, thus that criteria is obsolete.

Oh, there are still a lot. Do 217, Ju 188, He 177 (German Iron fans still have only a slow vulnerable EW bomber for LW MA action), Beaufighter, Aichi B7A, Whirlwind, Yak-3, Re 2005...
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2009, 08:14:41 PM »
Oh, there are still a lot. Do 217, Ju 188, He 177 (German Iron fans still have only a slow vulnerable EW bomber for LW MA action), Beaufighter, Aichi B7A, Whirlwind, Yak-3, Re 2005...

Here's one a list...not accounting variants of existing planes.

A-26
B-29A
Beaufighter Mk.X
B7A2
Firefly Mk.1
G.55
H8K2
He-162A
He-177A
J2M3
Ju-188A-5
Ki-102b
Me410B
Meteor III
PB2Y-5
P-61A
P-63
Re.2005
Tu-2
Yak-3

...I I'd rather see some more common aircraft first however. :)
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2009, 09:27:41 PM »
Wmaker,

I'd add the Ki-44-IIb to that list as well.
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2009, 11:06:09 AM »
And...
 
Ki-100
Pe-2
He 219
Ju 388 (it's a stretch, but it would be very cool)
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2009, 11:56:47 AM »
That thing would be lunchmeat in the MA for all but the best sticks (far beyond me), but I'd fly it once in a while for the novelty alone.  Plus it just looks cool.  Has it ever been modeled in any sim?

Even the Aussies wouldnt fly it. Just like they wouldnt have in real life had they something better. Didnt they replace them with P-40s or wildcats ?

Now the Beaufighter? I think that would be competative as a strike air craft. Plus its so cool looking.
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2009, 03:48:12 PM »
Wmaker,

I'd add the Ki-44-IIb to that list as well.

Agreed,

I did think about it, left it out for some reason. But yes, that fits in there.

And...
 
Ki-100
Pe-2
He 219
Ju 388 (it's a stretch, but it would be very cool)


- Ki-100 would be very similar in performance compared to the KI-61 that we have, and is essentially a variant of the Ki-61.

- Pe-2 is a very important bomber for special events, but I doubt it would be seen much more in the MAs than Boston III because of it's relatively small bombload and poor defensive armament. The only thing it does that the Boston doesn't do very well is dive bomb which can (some what unfortunately) be done better in many fighters carrying 2000lbs of bombs.

- He-219 could see some use but as it probably won't be very maneuverable (rather high wing loading) and doesn't have any air to ground ordinance like the Bf 110, I doubt it could approach the usage of the Bf 110 after the novelty wears off.

- Ju-388 flew reconnaissance missions over England in the last months of the war but AFAIK didn't drop any bombs in anger. Not much is known of the couple night fighter versions that were given for operational trials. Like you said, a bit of a strech. Very cool looking aircraft at any rate.
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Re: What we need are some What If planes
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2009, 04:07:20 PM »
And...
 
Ki-100
Pe-2
He 219
Ju 388 (it's a stretch, but it would be very cool)


Why would you want a night fighter?