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Offline Westy

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« on: January 24, 2000, 03:28:00 PM »
 The new screen shot looks great!!

 I'm honestly not up to speed on the Italian aircraft so I had to do a little searching to find out what the difference between a C.205 and C.202 was - seeing how they look almost identical in comparative screen shots.
 This site, posted in an earlier topic, http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/iwai/mc202.html
shed some light.

 From what I understand it uses a DB601 engine and smaller calibre weapons?  And it was introduced to combat in "Afrika" in 1941.
 Does this mean we'll soon get the P40, Hurricane or P38F/G/H????  

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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2000, 04:27:00 PM »
Spit Vb to follow...
Malta, Malta, Malta!

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2000, 04:46:00 PM »
Great!
The Regia Aeronautica will be finally discovered!
Now we wait for the Macchi Mc200, Fiat Cr42,  the SIAI Marchetti SM79 & the Reggiane fighters!!!
To Westy: the Macchi 20X series begun with the Mc200, a radial engined fighter wich showed excellent performances thanks the perfect wing designed by Mario Castoldi, but was underpowered.
The Mc 202 & Mc 205 were more or less the same airframe/wings of the Mc200 with the engine replaced by the DB601A and DB605.
The 202 went to the fronts in 1941 and the 205 in 1943.
The airframe was extremely strong (+/- 15g allowed) and the powerful engines exalted the aircrafts maneuverability, wich became outstanding in the Mc205.
The only (major) differences between the 202 & the 205 are the engine & the armament, wich was 2x12.7mm for the 202 (yes only two MGs...).
The Mc202 proved to be fatal for the P40s & Hurris, and even the SpitVs were in very big troubles.
Unfortunatly (or luckily?) the italian pilots were not able to shoot, but this is another history.


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Offline Westy

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2000, 08:17:00 AM »

 Thank you v-twin!

 North Afrika and Malta.
 Now there are two scenarios/theatres I would LOVE to fly in.

 -Westy
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Offline dolomite

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2000, 09:08:00 AM »
I would like to see a Spit V against which to pit the new bird.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2000, 09:56:00 AM »
I think that people voted with their feet and love the 205, its got lots of flavour and lots of capabilities. And I have never heared anybody complain about it being overmodeled. This can only encourage HTC to do more of the same.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2000, 10:37:00 AM »
Westy,
some more info for you ... an a warning for HTC    

Engined with the same DB601Aa of the Bf109E-3 the Macchi C.202 "Folgore" was a real beast (armament apart), thank to her beautifully streamlined fuselage and wing. Max speed was 375mph at 18,370ft. Time to 19,685ft (6,000mt) was 5'55".
She was armed with 2x12,7mm and, from the 7th series, with two additional 7,7mm in the wings (like our light C.205). Some 1,200 were built.

As you can see she was really superior to the 109E-3 and more like a 109F-2. A tough foe for the Hurricanes, SpitMkII, MkV, P-40 and early P38's met over North Africa, Malta and Sicily. Too bad she had a light armament. A lot of italian pilots lost their lives due to those peashooters (bad thing). Actually, many RAF, RCAF, SAAF pilots saved theirs (good thing).

   

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"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2000, 11:19:00 AM »
Where's the Spitfire Mk Vc(four cannon please) to shoot that pretty Italian bird down with?  
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2000, 11:27:00 AM »
Malta...4canon spit's...lets see ....No radar for the allies.... hight advantage for the axis most of the time ....slow climbing,slower turning spit 5(4 cannons),aginst 109 f2 and c202 ... would be fun to try. I'm In  

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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2000, 11:48:00 AM »
From what I understand the spitV where shipped with 4 cannons and 2 where usually removed..Was there no radar at Malta?
Cant be that bad to be the allies there though, look who won.

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2000, 12:29:00 PM »
The Allies won because most of the Luftwaffe units left and went to Russia.

What other planes would be good for Malta/Nth Africa?

Gladiator
P-40(kittyhawk/tomahawk)
P-39?
Hurricane II
Spitfire V
Blenhiem
Beaufort/fighter?
Boston/A-20?

Bf109E-7
Bf109F-4
Ju88A-4
He111H
Ju-87B, or D?

C.202
Re ????
CR.42
SM.79
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2000, 12:48:00 PM »

Thanks Gatt!

-Westy
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Offline gatt

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2000, 12:55:00 PM »

AFAIK there was a radar in Malta.

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2000, 01:34:00 PM »
Juzz, they had won and left for somewhere else? The cessation of offensive opperations is a defensive victory....


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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2000, 01:37:00 PM »
The Germans were in effect fighting a 3-front war... may have been bad strategy, but it doesn't mean that their equipment was inferior.

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