Another possible/urgent matchup

[funked]

Me 262.  

Or a Fw 190D-9 with the cannon installed in the outer stations which were present on all D-9 built.

I'm sure we'll see both!

P.S.  I don't know if people realize that the ballistics on the MK103 were frightening.  Huge muzzle velocity and a very good ballistic coefficient on the projectile.  Unlike the MK108 this would be a weapon that could kill with energy OR explosive power.

[juzz]

Some of these Russian cannon are pretty scary too you know!  

MK103 30x184B(330g) 420rpm 860m/s 146kg
MK108 30x90RB(312g) 600rpm 505m/s 64kg

Do-335! Hs129! Me410!

VYa 23x152B(200g) 500rpm 905m/s 69kg
NS-37 37x195(735g) 250rpm 900m/s 150kg
NS-45 45x182(1065g) 250rpm 850m/s 150kg

Il-2! Yak-9T! Yak-9K!  

[niklas]

me262!

it was in service!
ok, we wonīt get it for the main- game balance etc. bla bla bla

BUT- The Me209 was cancelled due to the Me262, so if axis forces donīt get a 262, they should have at least a 209 instead.

ohhhhhh no 209? ok, letīs go on with a G6,equiped with a 605A (G6 with Erla Haube had "umruestsatz AS" >> 605AS engine), unable to roll, and a G10, equiped with a "D", also unable to roll (hmmmmm, the 109, no fuel in the wings, no weapons in the wings, the lightest plane in the arena, but slowest roll rate of all aircrafts -physics???), though a good roll speed was considered to be more important than turn performance in the Luftwaffe...

[Hristo]

The most important reason why I sugested Do 335 is the ballistics and power of MK 103.

Me 262 has too short killing range with MK 108s. Dora is a bit better, but MG 151/20 is quite inferior (balistic wise) to the cannons found in Hog.

[Pongo]

Wasnt there a prototype of the 262 with 2 103s....
Certainly if it had been developed to fight in this war it would be armed with 4 * 151(20)
I think the 262 would do poorly here. They should intoduce it and show what the kill power of the 17s can do to such a fragile plane.

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Pongo

[funked]

I doubt the 262 was fragile.  The airframe had to be very strong to resist dynamic pressures that prop planes could not achieve.  Furthermore the propulsion system is very compact and not spread all over the plane with oil coolers, radiators, intercoolers, turbo plumbing, oil reservoirs, etc.

[Pongo]

I got that impression from reading the new osprey book. I will see if I can find any references in it that support what I said.
I just got the impression that it was fairly easy to inflict performance slowing damage. and once it was slower...it was history.
Its lack of accelleration makes it very vulnerable once it is slowed down...(like an f4u1c)
We all know it was unreliable maybe I transposed that to fragile.. I will look.


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Pongo