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Offline Swoop

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Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« on: May 22, 2009, 02:49:42 AM »
ok, he's just a kid but......what did he think he was doing boarding a ship with a weapon and threatening to kill people? 

The libs are gonna make a big deal out of this, this poor starving boy forced into piracy to feed his family, who never harmed a fly and wouldnt know how to fire the weapon he was carrying.......

Hopefully everyone else is just gonna call BS and teach the little ******* a lesson.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/somalia/5364183/Teenage-Somali-pirate-pleads-not-guilty-in-US-court.html

Teenage Somali 'pirate' pleads not guilty in US court
A Somali teenager accused of holding a US ship captain hostage in the Indian Ocean after an attempted hijacking pleaded not guilty on Thursday to 10 charges, including piracy and kidnapping.
 
Last Updated: 8:51PM BST 21 May 2009

Abduwali Abdukhadir Muse, the sole surviving accused pirate from the foiled bid to hijack the huge US container ship, Maersk Alabama, entered his plea at the US District Court in Manhattan.

The slightly built Muse, who prosecutors said acted as the leader of the pirates, appeared in court in a prison uniform and entered his plea in a quiet voice through an interpreter.

Prosecutors and representatives for Muse disagree about his age. Outside the courthouse, lawyers said they were looking for witnesses in Somalia to prove Muse is a juvenile after a judge ruled in April he is aged 18 and would be tried as an adult.

The defence lawyers said they had difficulty communicating with Muse and he did not understand why he had been given medication. They said they could not reveal what the medication was for.

"It's heart-wrenching. He is confused," said one of his lawyers, Deirdre von Dornum.

She said Muse was just "a boy who fishes and now he has ended up in solitary confinement here so it is a truly terrifying situation".

According to the indictment, Muse threatened the captain of the ship, Richard Phillips, with a firearm and then, using a radio to communicate with US representatives, "threatened to kill the captain unless his demands were satisfied".

Capt Phillips was held hostage on a lifeboat for several days after he volunteered to go with the pirates in exchange for the crew. He was rescued when US Navy snipers killed three pirates and captured Muse.

Muse also is charged with seizing a ship by force, possession of a machine gun and hostage taking. He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison if convicted. The next hearing was set for Sept 17.
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 04:04:37 AM »
I don't see how he could be charged with "possession of a machine gun"... in international/non-US waters? Strange.
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 04:38:22 AM »
Make him walk the plank !
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 05:16:56 AM »
Walk the plank indeed, with some chain wrapped around each leg.

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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 05:44:30 AM »
No no no. Give him a life vest, some water and food...






...and drop him off in the shark infested waters of his homeland.
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 07:17:54 AM »
heh, I like that idea.

"If found innocent we shall return you to where we captured you.  Exactly where we captured you."

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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 09:00:10 AM »
For info, ships at sea retain the laws of the land where its registered. In this case, the Laws of the US apply as the ship is registered there, and considered part of the US mainland.

Had he stayed on his own little boat, he'd have been safe, but as he chose not to, unlucky.

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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 11:08:21 AM »
Quote from: Die Hard on May 22, 2009, 04:04:37 AM
I don't see how he could be charged with "possession of a machine gun"... in international/non-US waters? Strange.

American flagged ship.... American laws.

Opps wurz beat me to it.
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 11:29:10 AM »
A) keel haul him

B) send him to Sinapore to be caned

C) Guest appearance on the View..
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 03:19:19 PM »
shoulda shot him back then an save us from havin to feed his useless ass
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 03:35:42 PM »
same some taxpayer money..
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 05:23:49 PM »
Quote from: TOMCAT21 on May 22, 2009, 11:29:10 AM
A) keel haul him

B) send him to Sinapore to be caned

C) Guest appearance on the View..

Dont you think option "C" is a little harsh, even for a Pirate?
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 06:28:36 PM »
Quote from: gpwurzel on May 22, 2009, 09:00:10 AM
For info, ships at sea retain the laws of the land where its registered. In this case, the Laws of the US apply as the ship is registered there, and considered part of the US mainland.

Had he stayed on his own little boat, he'd have been safe, but as he chose not to, unlucky.

Wurzel


Quote from: Shuffler on May 22, 2009, 11:08:21 AM
American flagged ship.... American laws.

Opps wurz beat me to it.


Pardon me for going a bit off-topic here, but I find this interesting. I always thought that only the laws of the sea applied to international waters. I guess that's why all the casino cruise ships in Florida and the Caribbean are flying non-US flags.  ;)
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 06:39:20 PM »
Tell him we're sorry we arrested him and are taking him back to where he was taken into custody. Take him there, give him a leaky life vest and a 50 lb bag of fresh chum for a snack and drop him into the water. He is welcome to make his way back home.
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Re: Somali pirate pleads not guilty.
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 07:26:41 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on May 22, 2009, 06:28:36 PM


Pardon me for going a bit off-topic here, but I find this interesting. I always thought that only the laws of the sea applied to international waters. I guess that's why all the casino cruise ships in Florida and the Caribbean are flying non-US flags.  ;)

I think he's on to something here.

Take a guess at which country in the world has the most commercial ships registered to it?
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